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ParkerBrother 01-28-2008 01:23 PM

General or Allegiance
 
After shooting many different bows I've finally narrowed my decicion down to two. The General and Allegiance. I'm having a tough time deciding between the two. I will mostly be bowhunting, but I recently moved to an area with a field archery range and would like to start doing that and 3ds a lot more. So would the better speed of the Allegiance make it a better all around bow? Or will the General perform well in the field and 3d aspect also?

MeanV2 01-28-2008 01:33 PM

RE: General or Allegiance
 

ORIGINAL: ParkerBrother

After shooting many different bows I've finally narrowed my decicion down to two. The General and Allegiance. I'm having a tough time deciding between the two. I will mostly be bowhunting, but I recently moved to an area with a field archery range and would like to start doing that and 3ds a lot more. So would the better speed of the Allegiance make it a better all around bow? Or will the General perform well in the field and 3d aspect also?
That really is a tough decision!! I have shot both bows a considerable amount and my choice out of those 2 would probably be the Allegiance. I like a little extra A to A it just produces a better string angle for my own personal anchor. If it were me trying to narrow down to one bow I would also be looking hard at the Guardian and the Airbornes:D

Dan

Rob/PA Bowyer 01-28-2008 06:35 PM

RE: General or Allegiance
 
I agree, very tough decision. I have both the General and Allegiance. It's a very tough choice and I'm not sure how I would decide. Both have perks that are well deserved of a look. Add the 82nd and you'll drive yourself crazy trying to decide. If both the General and the Allegiance laid there and I had to grab one and go, probably the Allegiance as well. Again tho, depends on the reason. The General is one sweet shooter and fast enough. The Ally, slightly more hand shock and noise, thus more speed but....tough choice.

PABowhntr 01-29-2008 05:31 AM

RE: General or Allegiance
 
I agree. Tough call. For me it would initially be an issue of length versus weight. The Allegiance is a couple inches longer but the mass weight of the General is a pound more. You can interpret that information one of two ways. In terms of the weight of the General, a heavier bow is more stable and thus inherently more accurate. In one sense this is a good thing for the General since the axle to axle length is fairly short at 31 inches. Also consider that the Center Pivot riser design tends to distribute the weight over more of the full length of the bow making it, again, more stable.

On the other hand the added weight can be a bit tiresome initially especiallyif you are not accustomed to it. In that sense the Allegiance would be a better option since its weight is more in the average range.

Also consider that thereis alot of emphasis put on longer axle to axle length bows and increased downfield accuracy...and for good reason. With that thought in mind though, and as suggested above, one of the other Bowtech offerings might suit your particular combination of needs better. In this sense I am thinking of the 101st Airborne. Its axle to axle length is a bit longer at 36 inches plus you have the option of switching between smooth and fast modules to customize the draw cycle a bit. You could easily use the smooth mods for hunting and/or field archery while relying more on the speed mods for 3D.

Just some things to think about. Hope it proves helpful.

centurion 01-30-2008 08:23 PM

RE: General or Allegiance
 
The four bows on my list for a new purchase are the General, the 82nd, Marquis and the allegiance. Although they are pretty different from one another they all seem to be great. Im pretty sure im going for the Marquis but i really want a Bowtech also. I thought that the General was pretty heavy and the 82nd seemed to have a fairly heavy draw cycle, but hey you dont get those speeds without a price. Like others have said its driving me mad trying to choose. Really liked the Marquis's feel and draw so thats whats swaying me so far.

MeanV2 01-30-2008 08:29 PM

RE: General or Allegiance
 

ORIGINAL: centurion

The four bows on my list for a new purchase are the General, the 82nd, Marquis and the allegiance. Although they are pretty different from one another they all seem to be great. Im pretty sure im going for the Marquis but i really want a Bowtech also. I thought that the General was pretty heavy and the 82nd seemed to have a fairly heavy draw cycle, but hey you dont get those speeds without a price. Like others have said its driving me mad trying to choose. Really liked the Marquis's feel and draw so thats whats swaying me so far.
Only you can decide!!:D

Good Luck with whatever you choose.

Dan

ParkerBrother 01-30-2008 09:59 PM

RE: General or Allegiance
 
Thanks for your input guys. Now I have some more thinking to do. I never tried the Airbornes because I wasn't sure about the longer AtA since I do most of my hunting out of a treestand. If it's not that big of deal I think I'm going to try them out now.

MeanV2 02-03-2008 09:30 AM

RE: General or Allegiance
 

ORIGINAL: ParkerBrother

Thanks for your input guys. Now I have some more thinking to do. I never tried the Airbornes because I wasn't sure about the longer AtA since I do most of my hunting out of a treestand. If it's not that big of deal I think I'm going to try them out now.
Concerning the A to A of the Airbornes, I would not let that deter me from trying one. I have Bowhunted for 40 years and used many bows much longer than the Airbornes and it was never a problem:D

Dan

Roskoe 02-03-2008 12:30 PM

RE: General or Allegiance
 
Can you imagine owning all four of these bows . . . . hanging in the garage next to each other. I would lay awake at night trying to decide which one to take out hunting in the morning. And then sit in the stand all day wondering if I made the right choice. It's bad enough with two bows . . . .

bigbulls 02-03-2008 01:17 PM

RE: General or Allegiance
 

Can you imagine owning all four of these bows . . . . hanging in the garage next to each other. I would lay awake at night trying to decide which one to take out hunting in the morning.
No kidding. I would just have to close my and walk to the wall and take the first oneI touched.


And then sit in the stand all day wondering if I made the right choice. It's bad enough with two bows . . . .
Nah, i don't think you could make a wrong choice with those 4 bows. ;)

Rob/PA Bowyer 02-03-2008 03:28 PM

RE: General or Allegiance
 
LOL guys, I do have all 4, right now I walk out the door with the 82nd.;) I shot a 3D shoot with it today.:D

Bigbulls is right tho, no wrong choice in the group.



wapitibull375 02-07-2008 08:43 PM

RE: General or Allegiance
 
What a nice problem to have! I ended up with a Guardian and Commander last year. Usually sell my bow or bows at this time of year and get on with
the new whatever. Well, this year I'm keeping both of them and maybe, just maybe one new to go with them. Been trying a lot of new bows last week
and this week. Hoyt, Mathews, Alpine, Diamond, Bowtech, PSE, and so far would you believe that an Allegiance has felt the best. It wasn't the one
with the least amount of hand shock, the General was on top of that list. It wasn't the fastest, the 82nd and X-Force were there, but for some reason,
the Alley just felt the best in my hands, before, during, and after the shot. That's why it's so important for a bow buyer to try as many bows out as
possible before making his or her purchase. I'm still not 100% decided on the Alley, but very very close.

Hoyt82 02-07-2008 11:34 PM

RE: General or Allegiance
 
Very tough call. I was in the same rut and could not decide between the two. I ended up getting the General and love it. It is totally up to you. Good luck with whatever you decide. You are in good shape which ever way you go

semostixx 02-09-2008 05:02 AM

RE: General or Allegiance
 
I have a 07 Ally, and I jumped at the chance to shoot the General as soon as it came out. I really liked the General, but I wouldn't have traded my Ally for it. I think the extra weight of the General is the big difference for me. With my Ally totally rigged out with a quiver full of arrows, it weighs about the same as the General does as a bare bow. If I was going to only have 1 of the 2, the Ally wins out for me.

TerryM 02-09-2008 10:22 AM

RE: General or Allegiance
 

ORIGINAL: ParkerBrother

Thanks for your input guys. Now I have some more thinking to do. I never tried the Airbornes because I wasn't sure about the longer AtA since I do most of my hunting out of a treestand. If it's not that big of deal I think I'm going to try them out now.
The longer Airborne only really is about 2" longer at the ends. Not real drastic. By the way, I shot the General but will be keeping my 07 Ally.

MeanV2 02-09-2008 10:49 AM

RE: General or Allegiance
 
I have been shooting the General some the last day or 2. I switched out the Fast mods for the smooth mods and OOOooo how sweet! I think the General will be my Turkey Bow of choice this spring. The Short A to A and quiet, accurate shoot ought to fill the bill for Turkeys out of the Double Bull:D

Dan



M77man 02-11-2008 08:55 PM

RE: General or Allegiance
 
Not much to offer here but I test fired them both last week when I bought my Black Ice. Pesonally the General felt a little top heavy so I would have to say Allegiance. Good luck


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