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GVDocHoliday 02-03-2003 06:42 PM

Good Fixed BH for Speed
 
I'm shooting a 407+ grain 7595 Goldtip XT at 293fps. I'm generating 77ft-lbs of kinetic energy with this setup. I could use any expandable out there with this energy but really want a fixed blade broadhead for down range shots in the area of 40+ yards. I know, I know, some may say its unethical to take shots at that range, however, I have found that this distance of shot is the norm for elk...which is my dream pursuit. I'm looking for a fixed blade that will give me the best accuracy at this range. My bow is very well tuned and I'm getting bullet holes with a bareshaft with weight tape out to 15 yards. I just want good penetration downrange and a mechanical just won't do it for me. Any suggestions? Thanks for your time.


les1cam 02-03-2003 07:47 PM

RE: Good Fixed BH for Speed
 
I've encountered your speed problem often over the years. I've had to resort to either slowing my fps or going to mechanicals. Last year I changed to Nitro-Stinger arrows and a 1" diameter broadhead. Don't care for the Stingers so this year I'll change back to a non-tapered shaft and Rocket's new Ultra 100 fixed blade b-head. It's 7/8" cut and people have said it shoots "like a dart". I hope that's good.


Antler Eater 02-03-2003 08:50 PM

RE: Good Fixed BH for Speed
 
GVDocHoliday, Give a Montec or a Rocky Mountain Ironhead a try and get back to us with the results.


Tax Lawyer 02-04-2003 06:19 AM

RE: Good Fixed BH for Speed
 
I agree with the Rocket Ultimate Steel fixed blades. They are supposed to fly awesome.

BIGAMENY 02-04-2003 08:45 AM

RE: Good Fixed BH for Speed
 
Doc, Ive had great results with Muzzy but my favorite is Wasp SST'S

stinky1 02-04-2003 11:17 AM

RE: Good Fixed BH for Speed
 
I don't shoot at the speeds your talking about, but I like my SlickTrick broadheads verey much. Fly just like my field points at 40 yards.

www.slicktrick.net


Stickemup 02-04-2003 12:40 PM

RE: Good Fixed BH for Speed
 
Doc,
You might want to look at the Rocket Steelheads. They are a small cut expandable that has been shown to penetrate just as well as fixed heads. At your speed and KE, I would think it would be the ideal compromise for good flight and penetration.

Good luck.

Trebark 02-04-2003 07:02 PM

RE: Good Fixed BH for Speed
 
Doc,
Try the four blade Muzzy. It's smaller cutting diameter won't plane as bad, but the extra blade will actually give you a larger hole.
Trebark

Become one with nature...then grill it.

5 shot 02-05-2003 04:35 AM

RE: Good Fixed BH for Speed
 
Lots of great choices around. I have had good luck with a lot of differnt heads, Muzzy, Rocky Mtn, wasp etc. The most accurate fixed blade head I have ever shot is the Slick trick. It's a 4 blade 1 1/8" head. Like I said though any quality head should fly well out of your setup provided you are using some helical on you fletchings and your bow is tuned well.

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tobyn 02-05-2003 07:41 AM

RE: Good Fixed BH for Speed
 
IT WOULD SEEM AS YOU MAY HAVE TO DO SOME EXPERAMENTING.
FORM WHAT A HAVE HEARD AND JUST READ, IT SEEMS MOST FIXED BLADES START PLANING. AS FOR FORTY YARD SHOTS PRACTICE, I SHOOT 245 FPS AND TOOK A NICE DOE AT 40 YARDS. BUT ELK I MYSELF WOULD PROABLY LEAN TORWARD A HEAVIER ARROW, ROCKY MNT. TITANUM 100 OR IRON HEAD 125 BOTH USE THE SAME BLADE. SEE WHAT GETS YOU THERE AT THE SPEED AND KE YOU WANT WITH ARRUACY. GOOD LUCK
THANKS

JD IN ALBERTA 02-06-2003 02:12 PM

RE: Good Fixed BH for Speed
 
I'm shooting very similar speeds as you and I am using Steelforce 85gr Titaniums. I've had no problems taking big boar out to 45yds. (Thats my max). Great broadhead and real tough but pretty pricey to experiment with.

Rob02 02-06-2003 07:32 PM

RE: Good Fixed BH for Speed
 
The DEAD HEAD 100 group tigher at 50 yard than any other fixed BH. The helicial blades realy do help the flight and forgivness. I used them for the first time last season and loved the flight performance.

whitetail72 02-07-2003 02:29 AM

RE: Good Fixed BH for Speed
 
I'm with JD on this one. Steelforce is what you should go with. Great flight. Also this Head will stay together.

deerdragr 03-07-2003 08:25 PM

RE: Good Fixed BH for Speed
 
Wasp is coming out with a new small fixed head called the Boss Bullet. I believe
it' s 85 gr. I saw a prototype at a sportsman show and it looked like it would fly
sweet. They are supposed to hit the stores late spring or summer.

dcl 03-07-2003 09:08 PM

RE: Good Fixed BH for Speed
 
i' ve had great luck with the 4 blade muzzy. ya its only 90 grains but i push it up over 300fps. out to 50yds--practice range only. and it groups very well. also had great luck with archers ammo contenders. you just gotta start trying b-heads to see what flys good for you.

Todd1700 03-07-2003 10:24 PM

RE: Good Fixed BH for Speed
 
I' ve never shot a deer with one so I can' t comment on that aspect but Slick Tricks are the most accurate fixed head I have ever shot. They will hit where your field points hit. At any speed! I have intentionally shot them out of a mistuned bow and they still grouped with my field tips.
But at your speed a rocket steelhead expandable in 100 or 125 grain would blow through any deer even at 40 yards. I have found them to penetrate better than my fixed heads. I know that is hard to believe but thats based on my own testing. On 1/2 inch plywood the steelhead buried deeper than a muzzy,a slick trick, a steelforce, and a G5 montec. All shot on the same arrow, same bow and same distance. Repeated the test multiple times because I just couldn' t believe it myself but the results were always the same. The fixed heads all penetrated about 1/2 way the arrow but the steelhead buried to the fletching. Every time!

Big Country 03-08-2003 02:45 AM

RE: Good Fixed BH for Speed
 
I have used Muzzy 125gr., and Thunderhead 125gr. @ 300fps with fantastic accuracy out to 50 yds.

I`m sure the others mentioned are good ones, but I have yet to try them.

CBM SC 03-08-2003 03:28 PM

RE: Good Fixed BH for Speed
 
Look at the new Rocky Mountain Ironhead 100 . 1" cut . They should fly pretty good. Personally shooting 290+ I' ve had a very hard time getting consistant results with fixed blades, at least enough to hunt with. When I got real close I tried shooting on a real windy day (after someone suggested it) . And learned another archery lesson. Been shooting mechanicals ever since !!

HighBow 03-08-2003 06:58 PM

RE: Good Fixed BH for Speed
 
I have had great flight out of the Steele Force broadheads and they are reasonable priced too.

BOW-NUT 03-20-2003 07:19 AM

RE: Good Fixed BH for Speed
 
i shot 7595 gt and i had trouble getting fb to fly very well i shoot 85 thunderheads on a 5575 at 298 and cut veins at 40 yrds. but the 7595 ihad to try 100 thunder heads but fly like a dream ,the reason i shoot 5575 and a 85 head is i already had 2 dozen of them didn`t want to buy all new heads i have passthroughs at 50 yrds
with my set up,with no complaints ,i know some of you guys don`t agree with taking long shots but i feel if your confident in your ability and condition are right i don`t have a problem with taking a shot out to 50yrds

mez 03-20-2003 01:48 PM

RE: Good Fixed BH for Speed
 
I' m shooting right around 300 fps with my setup and I shoot 125 gr three blade muzzy' s. They group tight enough at forty yards I only shoot one arrow at a time into the 3D or shoot spots on a block. I don' t have any problem with planing or bad flight. I have not shot at game at 40 but on the targets they work good.

ahunter55 03-22-2003 08:50 AM

RE: Good Fixed BH for Speed
 
Try the Rocky Mountain & stick with the 3 Blade.
e-mail Bruce Barrie, Rocky mountain owner, he takes has taken many elk.
Pic of my Bull 2002, 35 yards, 3 Blade Rocky Mountain. he went 80 yards.
good Luck in your quest.
ahunter55, Bowhunting North America Videos



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