Black Hawk Vapor ACA Arrow Shafts
11-24-2002, 11:00 AM
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Location: Cincinnati oh USA
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Black Hawk Vapor ACA Arrow Shafts
Black Hawk Vapor ACA Camo Arrow Shafts:
Construction: Multi-Layered Laminated Carbon
Weight Tolerance: +/- 3 grains
Spine Tolerance: +/- .75
Straightness Tolerance: +/- 0.003
Shaft Weight per inch: 9.5gpi (size 4000)
V-Knock: 8 grains
8-32 Aluminum Insert
Overview:
I’ll start off point blank; I am apprehensive and untrusting of any shaft made by anyone but Easton. I even was a little slow to try Bemans and they are owned by Easton! Well anyway my dealer asked me to try these out, he said he liked the camo & stuff and they seemed like a good shaft.
Well I got a dozen shafts and upon inspection they have a great camo finish. Black Hawk calls it Radiant Armor Camo Coating. I will saw this is smoothest finish I have ever seen on a carbon arrow! I mean silky smooth and no ripples. My first impressions of this shaft was very good, much better finish and smoothness than any Beman camo shaft I have seen.
Rating system: 1 = poor, 10 = best.
Durability: 10 - This shaft is more durable that aluminum I have had no problems with them breaking or splintering out where the nock attaches. The finish is tough as nails and doesn’t wear off.
Quality: 10 – The dozen I have is A+ I can’t say anything negative about them at all.
Weight Tolerance: 10 – The shafts fell right in the specs the manufacturer said they would.
Straightness: 9 – Very straight shaft that falls right in there with most good carbons. They are not as straight as XX78 Super Slams but then again I have never seen a carbon that was.
Price: 10 – They cost around 65.00 a dozen for the shafts, which is a little cheaper than the Beman camo shaft. I think this is a fair price for any good quality carbon arrow with a camo finish.
Shoot Ability: 10 - These shafts tune easy, fly great, hit where they are aimed & always group super tight. What more can you ask for?
Total Score: 9.8
Final Comment: If you have not tried this shaft give it a try. I think you will really like it and find it is one of the best 100% carbon hunting shafts on the market. So far I have not had any bad experiences with this shaft and I plan on using them for a while. If they continue to perform this way I will end up making them my new pet shaft and may even give their 23 Speed shaft a try for 3-D. I have seen some negative remarks about these arrows on the Internet but I don’t see how, these shafts are 100% quality!
Construction: Multi-Layered Laminated Carbon
Weight Tolerance: +/- 3 grains
Spine Tolerance: +/- .75
Straightness Tolerance: +/- 0.003
Shaft Weight per inch: 9.5gpi (size 4000)
V-Knock: 8 grains
8-32 Aluminum Insert
Overview:
I’ll start off point blank; I am apprehensive and untrusting of any shaft made by anyone but Easton. I even was a little slow to try Bemans and they are owned by Easton! Well anyway my dealer asked me to try these out, he said he liked the camo & stuff and they seemed like a good shaft.
Well I got a dozen shafts and upon inspection they have a great camo finish. Black Hawk calls it Radiant Armor Camo Coating. I will saw this is smoothest finish I have ever seen on a carbon arrow! I mean silky smooth and no ripples. My first impressions of this shaft was very good, much better finish and smoothness than any Beman camo shaft I have seen.
Rating system: 1 = poor, 10 = best.
Durability: 10 - This shaft is more durable that aluminum I have had no problems with them breaking or splintering out where the nock attaches. The finish is tough as nails and doesn’t wear off.
Quality: 10 – The dozen I have is A+ I can’t say anything negative about them at all.
Weight Tolerance: 10 – The shafts fell right in the specs the manufacturer said they would.
Straightness: 9 – Very straight shaft that falls right in there with most good carbons. They are not as straight as XX78 Super Slams but then again I have never seen a carbon that was.
Price: 10 – They cost around 65.00 a dozen for the shafts, which is a little cheaper than the Beman camo shaft. I think this is a fair price for any good quality carbon arrow with a camo finish.
Shoot Ability: 10 - These shafts tune easy, fly great, hit where they are aimed & always group super tight. What more can you ask for?
Total Score: 9.8
Final Comment: If you have not tried this shaft give it a try. I think you will really like it and find it is one of the best 100% carbon hunting shafts on the market. So far I have not had any bad experiences with this shaft and I plan on using them for a while. If they continue to perform this way I will end up making them my new pet shaft and may even give their 23 Speed shaft a try for 3-D. I have seen some negative remarks about these arrows on the Internet but I don’t see how, these shafts are 100% quality!
11-27-2002, 04:55 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Southbridge Ma USA
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RE: Black Hawk Vapor ACA Arrow Shafts
Moonge- Just tried some of these shafts, except for the price your dead-on. Shafts - Points - Nocks like well over $100 ouch!!! I'm trying the NAA size 4000S, man these are "light" arrows. Had trouble grouping using a older GK rest with a big v-blade on it, at 20 yds group real bad 5", I suspected light arrow and no clearance with the launcher, next time used a tuner rest w/blade (theirs) not cleance problem now and shoot left/right groups in the X rind(9 & 3 o'clock on x line, couldn't quite tune them in tight enough, blame myself was getting tired anyways BUT they look promising, will try a diffent set-up next time as moving rest left/right and nocking point didn't really help much, but made it my group better. lots of time to play, now if I didn't throw away the GK free fall rest away, hated it.
11-28-2002, 07:14 PM
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Spike
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Staples, MN USA
Posts: 76
RE: Black Hawk Vapor ACA Arrow Shafts
I have a small gunsmithing/archery shop and have been selling the Blackhawk Vapor shafts since they came out. Have customers that prefer them over the Gametracker AFC shafts I had mostly sold before. They claim the Vapor are a tougher shaft. Haven't had anyone complain about them. Besides they are made in USA, not overseas.
12-02-2002, 02:25 PM
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Location: Southbridge Ma USA
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RE: Black Hawk Vapor ACA Arrow Shafts
Mon. -After shooting thursday nite (yes Thanksgiving) Sat. and Sunday, changing rests to a GK Premier with a small blade and a light spring setting, paper test was great. 5 Yds slight left tear 1/2 upwards (looks good) 10 yds bullet hole, 15 yds very slight tear left, I didn't try 20 yds. added weight to point them arrows just won't group getting flyers out in the 8 ring "ouch", its like their planing (but then the paper test doesn't show that) So maybe my new Wheely bow shoot them better (faster) then my pro-tec. I've tried everything. arrows 4000s cut at 26" with a CC Pro-Tec and a loop weight 51 lbs, drawnlenght 25.25. As you see with my short drawnlength was hoping thses arrows would work. David
12-04-2002, 03:19 AM
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Location: Eastern PA USA
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RE: Black Hawk Vapor ACA Arrow Shafts
moonge:
Glad to hear that your experience with these arrows has been good. I got a half dozen to try out, and the results have been not nearly as good as yours. Four of my arrows group fine, one is usually out of the group a bit, and one shoots way out (3" @ 30 yards) of the group. I have shot it enough times with similar results to know that it is not my shooting, which I first suspected. I hope my experience is the exception and not the rule. I have 6 of these, plus 10 CE's (the local pro shop likes CE's), but I just might switch back to aluminum for next year. I might just have a full retro outfit!
Avoid the inevitable until it is absolutely unavoidable!
Glad to hear that your experience with these arrows has been good. I got a half dozen to try out, and the results have been not nearly as good as yours. Four of my arrows group fine, one is usually out of the group a bit, and one shoots way out (3" @ 30 yards) of the group. I have shot it enough times with similar results to know that it is not my shooting, which I first suspected. I hope my experience is the exception and not the rule. I have 6 of these, plus 10 CE's (the local pro shop likes CE's), but I just might switch back to aluminum for next year. I might just have a full retro outfit!
Avoid the inevitable until it is absolutely unavoidable!
12-07-2002, 08:24 PM
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Location: Cincinnati oh USA
Posts: 626
RE: Black Hawk Vapor ACA Arrow Shafts
Just a note guys.....my good buddy IL-Cornfed also tried these out & after shooting them for a while had some problems. I'll keep you posted once I get to shoot some more.
