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I bought some ST 100's about a week ago. They were kinda sharp but not scary sharp like some of the other BH's out of the box. All I did was buy some jewelers rouge and a tanned peice of leather(strop). I mounted the leather to a 2x4 and rubbed in some jewelers rouge. Took the ST blades to the leather strop about 20 times...Holy scary sharp!!! All they need is a quick cleanup on a leather strop and they are good to go. Basically all the strop does is clean and polish the edge to make it razor-shave-your-arm-hair-sharp.

Please note. When doing this you pull the blade away from the edge...You DO NOT push the blade edge into the leather.

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Hi, this is Gary from Slick Trick. I don't post on forums very often, don't like spam and don't have a program to push the heads. I like to have average guys advertise the heads voluntarily just because they like them. I appreciate the feedback on the sharpness, always looking for any improvement I can do. If manufacturing can make them sharper they certainly will. I ship them based on running them against the hair on my arm, and I get a fine bouquet of hair when I do that. They do have a strong bevel which I prefer. Heads that may wow you with their shaving abilities with thinner bevels can dull on entry on a rib and actually be duller when penetrating an animal than seemingly less sharp blades. What really counts is cutting through an animal of course. Not too long agoa guy told me the blades didn't seem sharp, I told him about running them against the hair on my arm, and he replied backhe then found they were very sharp.Frankly I have found checking blades that they consistently get hair, if you get blades that you doubt please send them back for replacement. Certainly mean for them to be sharp, but nothing is perfect, recall a dealer posting once that they had gotten a case of Thunderheads that were dull as a bowling ball. Hard to believe, but maybe it happened. I ship heads to 5 shot to test, and don't do anything but pull a pack out of the middle of a supply. He finds they shave and are plenty sharp to hunt with, same as I do. Field reports are the same as his tests report, depending on location they bleed as well as anything, and have great penetration.And as I think somebody said, a simple carbide sharpener willpolish an edge back to shaving sharpness after if has beenquiver dulled, you just use verylight strokes many times on an edge, 15-30, and they will polish back to shaving. Speaking of penetration, guys forget to consider cut. The more you cut with a given design, the less penetration of course. Some designs penetrate better than others, and if you check 5 shots tests, no design, "cut on contact" or whatever, cut for cut, outpenetrates Tricks. Also keep in mind that bone and tough tissue is what limits a passthrough, his tests with plywood and tire correlates to what hunters find. If you hit where you aim and only hit ribs and lungs on a deer a 45 lb longbow will get a passthrough with just about any fixed blade head. In relation to Stingers mentioned above, consider that a Stinger 100 cuts 1 1/16 X 3/4", I believe, which is a total cut of 1.81". A magnumTrick 100 cuts 1.125 X 1.125, which means it cuts 24% more. Is 24% significant? Would you be pleased if your paycheck came 24% less? Would a Trick penetrate better if the blades were smaller and cut 24% less? Sure. But the trick, pardon the pun, is to cut as much in all 4 directions to cut a vein or artery and open up as good a hole as you can while having good odds of a passthrough. The 1 1/8" magnums do that. But for those who want a smaller head for even more penetration, Trick 100 and 125s, while I have not gotten it up on site yet, but you may order just write 1" STANDARD, now come in a 1" STANDARD size 3 pack. Or, if you have the magnums all you have to do is order 1" STANDARD blades which will fit the same ferrules. Some guys may choose to use the 1 1/8" magnums on deer, and switch to the 1" standards on elk or hogs. Although I informed my Africa dist of the availability of the 1" blades, and he ordered all magnums, saying they were doing fine with the magnums. The reason I tag them standard is 1" 4 blade Tricks cut 18% more than the 1 1/8" 3 blade heads and open as good or better hole. Anyway, gotta go, I appreciate you guys, andwill do anything I can to improve Tricks or please you, and if anybody is not pleased with Tricks just send them back for a full refund, THANKS GARY

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Thanks Gary! That is the information I was referring to pretty much. I was going nuts because I almost thought I imagined you posting that somewhere else because I couldn't find it!

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I just ordered some slick tricks, shot em, sold em. Using the same grain heads, there was no comparison on penetration between a slick trick and a magnus stinger into my broadhead target.....throw some hair and bone into the mix and I believe the steep blade angles of the STwould create even more friction.I'm sure if you hit a deerin the goody box either broadheadwill blow right through....too badwe don't always him em where we want to. I'm going to stick with the stingers,they fly just as well and I like the ease of resharpening.

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Well 4buck,

I can tell you that a 125 grain slick trick will absolutely penetrate entirely through a spine, completely severing it, and exit the brisket. They will also penetrate the upper back ribs, travel through the lungs and still bust through the bottom ribs and cut the leg bone (not the shoulder blade but the thick round bone) in half.

I don't think penetration is much of an issue with the ST's. A foam rubber target is certainly not the same as a live animal.

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Well BIGBULLS,
Sorry I blew up and offered an opinion??? I thought that was what this message board was for? I just said I don't like the steep blade angle....my personal opinion, am Inot allowed to give it? Don't have to get Sassy cause I don't care for the broadheads you shoot!

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I agree with 4buck on this one. I switched to the Stingers as well. Not everyone will agree on a broadhead. There are so many good heads available and the Tricks are a great flying head no doubt but if anyone thinks the Stingers don't fly just as well haven't shot them. I shot the Tricks last year but Im just not a fan of the short blades but to each his own......and thats a good thing or there would only be one broadhead choice and that would be boring.

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I wasn't jumping your butt. Just rebutting that the ST's do not penetrate well.

You had a concern that it would not do good on heavy bone hits. Remember your "too bad we don't always hit em where we want to" comment? So I offered evidence that it does, in fact, do very well in those instances.

Pull your panties out of your butt.[&:][8D]

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Hey, I'm all for personal observation, I can't argue that they don't break bones, and they do fly well so hitting shoulder blades shouldn't be a problem. Seven years ina Physics department, and seeing the poortarget penetration, led me to believe that the steep blade angle would have greater friction, ultimately leading to less penetration. Physics don't lie.....everything about archery pertains to it in some way....mass, velocity, kineitic energy......(> friction = less penetration.....no matter what the cause). Just going back to the basics.

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Hi, physics don't lie. True. But that doesn't mean people can't draw wrong conclusions.If you like physics, check out 5 shots tests. You will find that no head that cuts as much as a Trick outpenetrates it.3/4" plywood mimics bone pretty well, and there isn't much tougher tissue than a tire. Ifyour friction theory was true,it would be provenin thoseconsistent, controlled, repeatable tests. Itisn't.See for yourself. I will tell you that aMichigan dealer told me theyare gettingpassthroughs with a big hole with Tricks through the shoulders of 500+ Russian boars. Said they couldn't believe it, but they and othershave done it. Not too shabby penetration,similar resultsto5 shots tests. But other heads kill also, different strokes for different folks,shoot whatever pleases you and I hope youget something for the skillet.