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rockport 02-19-2014 12:49 PM

First attempt at hand made knife(starting to look like a knife anyway)
 
Started with an old file and shaped with sand paper and a little mora knife to shape the wood all by hand. Its finally starting to look like a knife and actually shave hair.


Still have some work to do.

buckman11 02-19-2014 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by rockport (Post 4123555)
Started with an old file and shaped with sand paper and a little mora knife to shape the wood all by hand. Its finally starting to look like a knife and actually shave hair.


Still have some work to do.

did you make the knife out of a finger nail file?

rockport 02-19-2014 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by buckman11 (Post 4123570)
did you make the knife out of a finger nail file?

lol no, A real file.

buckman11 02-19-2014 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by rockport (Post 4123573)
lol no, A real file.

that makes much more sense. if you made that knife out of a fingernail file i was gonna have a cow.

rockport 02-19-2014 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by buckman11 (Post 4123578)
that makes much more sense. if you made that knife out of a fingernail file i was gonna have a cow.

No its a 9 inch knife. The blade is 4 inches long and 3/16 inches thick

buckman11 02-19-2014 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by rockport (Post 4123586)
No its a 9 inch knife. The blade is 4 inches long and 3/16 inches thick

thats a good lookin knife. i might have to try to make one.

DIY_guy 02-20-2014 04:38 AM

Its a joy crating things by hand. I hope that is just the first of many knives you make. Its a great hobby. Did you aneal the file to make it soft enough to shape? Did you then heat treat it and temper it?

I still have the very first knife I made back in 1982. Ive lost track of all the dozens and dozens I have made since then.

rockport 02-20-2014 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by DIY_guy (Post 4123655)
Its a joy crating things by hand. I hope that is just the first of many knives you make. Its a great hobby. Did you aneal the file to make it soft enough to shape? Did you then heat treat it and temper it?

I still have the very first knife I made back in 1982. Ive lost track of all the dozens and dozens I have made since then.

No I left it hard. I was thinking it would be great for skinning and such being super hard but its looking like I'm going to have to go ahead and anneal it in order to put pins in the Handle.

I was able to take my time and shape it with sand paper but that is looking like a waste now as I can not get holes drilled in the handle.

DIY_guy 02-20-2014 08:30 AM

You wont be able to anneal it with the handle on (that you show in the first picture). Most old files are made from WI steel (W indicates water quench) but it could even be 1095 steel.

You could bake the file in the oven at 450/500 Degrees F and then turn the oven down to 400 for an hour and then 300 for a half hour and then leave it in the oven to slowly cool. That will soften it up a but allowing you to grind a bevel, drill holes and do final shaping.

Then your going to need to re-harden and temper the steel so it holds an edge.

Heat the blade to 1,400-1,500 degrees F (A magnet should not cling to the metal at this point) Then quench the steel in 180 Degree F salt water or veg oil. Have your oven preheated to 450 degrees F and take the still hot blade and temper it for an hour in the oven.

Its going to look black and scaley so you will need to clean it up and polish it again.

After this, get your hands on some O1 tool steel (buy it already annealed) and save yourself some work.

rockport 02-20-2014 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by DIY_guy (Post 4123693)
You wont be able to anneal it with the handle on (that you show in the first picture). Most old files are made from WI steel (W indicates water quench) but it could even be 1095 steel.

You could bake the file in the oven at 450/500 Degrees F and then turn the oven down to 400 for an hour and then 300 for a half hour and then leave it in the oven to slowly cool. That will soften it up a but allowing you to grind a bevel, drill holes and do final shaping.

Then your going to need to re-harden and temper the steel so it holds an edge.

Heat the blade to 1,400-1,500 degrees F (A magnet should not cling to the metal at this point) Then quench the steel in 180 Degree F salt water or veg oil. Have your oven preheated to 450 degrees F and take the still hot blade and temper it for an hour in the oven.

Its going to look black and scaley so you will need to clean it up and polish it again.

After this, get your hands on some O1 tool steel (buy it already annealed) and save yourself some work.

Thanks

The scales are just loosely glued on. They will come off.


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