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They are having an end-of-season sale on there hunting accessories now. I picked up some black powder supplies pretty cheap.

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checked my Wal Mart again today and nothing has been reduced. I did look over everything real good so I know what I should come after when it does.

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I was up at the local Walmart this weekend and picked up a TC Black Diamond "package" (lot of accessories) for $170. The guy at the counter said they'd paid $220 for them. I think that same package sells for $270 at Natchez.

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My Wally put their supplies on sale last week. No change on the guns though. :(

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hmm thanx for the heads up...im running out after work tomarow!!! i like to keep minor stuff on hand....patches....cleanings stuff.....you know....our rifle season just ended....wont be surprised if thye try giving it away soon...or maybe they will wait till out late flintlock season ends....either way its worth a look........i remember last year i was a day late and they were sold out of everything i wanted....

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Keep shoppin Wal-Mart. That extra $20 you save each trip really helps your household out dont it?

Just DONT bitch for one second when you loose your job because your employer who supplied "mom and pops" ran out of customers and had to go out of business themselves (or they fired you all, packed up and went too China to produce for Wallyworld),
RA

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Here we go again

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I prefer to buy my stuff from a sporting goods/gun shop or Cabela's.
You get better service and normally more knowledge than from someone at Walmart that just got transfered to sporting goods from housewares!
Cheaper isn't always better in the long run.
But that's just me.

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If you're the kind of guy that needs advice or service, don't go to wallyworld, at least until you talk to somebody that does know what they're talking about.

If you know what you want it's hard to turn down a good deal for the same brands that you could buy from "mom and pop".

I don't need advice or service from a gunshop. Most of the guys I've run into are too busy with their rich customers, or are too opinionated if you want a Savage intead of a Browning. I'll get any service I need from the Manufacturer or a good gunsmith.

20 bucks goes a long way in my house.

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I agree Norby!

It's unfortunate the Mom & Pop stores are closing. However, those that take stabs at the Wally Worlds surely have wives that grocery shop at large food chains... not the corner MA & Pa market.

Who in the lower middle class (most folks) wants to go out on a Saturday -- then give a large portion of a single day's take-home earnings & give the Ma & Pop gun store an extra $40 -- then give the Ma & Pop grocery store an extra $40 just for a personal greeting & personal purchase advice that he or she likes... but not you.

I worked hard for that $80 take-home pay. If I want to donate $80, I'll buy a couple of X-Mas presents for needy, homeless kids & take it to a nearby missionary in mid-town Detroit. Why give it to a comfortable-living, suburbanite store owner with a new car parked out front?

Remember sumthin'.... the Waltons started out as a Mom & Pop also. Cheap prices made them filthy rich. Tell Mom & Pop to lower their prices $40 & start driving used cars -- start living in the upstairs flat on top of their stores & save enough money to buy one of these mega stores.

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I'm in N. Idaho, the closest sporting goods store to me is 45 mi away - I'll keep shpping at Walmart. Capitalism is a rough road, but it's the road I prefer to travel on - and Walmart, if nothing else, provides an excellent example of it every day.

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Great price on the Black Diamond at Wallmart!

Off topic of the original bulletin and subject which was a great deal on ML gear...
Well, I usually always try to get the best deal I can, although I never shop at Wallmart for personal reasons.

However, I also try to steer my business to the Mom & Pop stores. I don't expect them to compete fully price-wise as they cannot negotiate the wholesale volumes as the large chains, but I do expect them to make an effort to offer a reasonable price and still make a fair profit.

If the smaller shop will make the effort to deal reasonably, then they will not only get my business but my trust as well.

Sometimes on big ticket items the cost savings are such that you just cannot afford not to buy at the bigger chains as was the case on a recent scope I pruchased.

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Geez, I just wanted to tell you about some bargains, I ain't making no political statement![:'(]

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T7 youll wish you HAD spent that $80 with ma n pa when you get laid off. That $80 might not stay in your household when you spent it with ma n pa but it WOULD stay in your own town/state. How much of it stays there when you spend it with WallyWorld? They pay corporate taxes that go too federal and state beauracrats. The construction of their stores is handled by a large conglomerate that you likely have never even heard of and most likely NONE of your buddies helped or benefited in its building. The mgmt of the store may or may not be local (typically they are brought in and arent there longterm). The rest of the store is hourly employees who make half what they did when they were on an assembly line producing American made products. I wont even go into what the chinese are being paid to produce those same goods now.

Im as big a fan of capitalism as there is. I am a walkin example of its beneifts. BUT this business model that is Wal Mart IS destined too failure, unregulated "free trade" benefits only those who import the goods which thereby export the jobs!!! But unfortunately its our children who will have to pay that lesson.

Im NOT tryin to be personal guys, just puttin the facts out in black and white. Unfortunately to many dont care until THEY loose THEIR jobs and then they want to blame someone else,
RA

ps
T7 lemme also ask you a question. Why do you favor the Waltons making more and MORE of your money to buy new cars, planes, estates, business' etc. Yet you somehow hold a grudge against a local entreprenuer making anything other than a meager living from a community that they live in and share interest in with yourself and your own family? I will NEVER understand such philosophy.

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Wasn't trying to get political either and I am sorry I offended those of you that already know everything.:eek:
I have only been shooting ML for 31 years so I must just be kind of slow because I certainly don't know everything yet.
Or, maybe,I'm still open to others ideas?
The fact remains that you will not get many ideas at Walmart.
I have bought stuff at Walmart too.
I just said I prefer to buy my stuff from a person that might actually share my passion for shooting and hunting.

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i work at wal-mart so look for the red tags where the yellow tags are for stuff that they want discon for the season cause we don't want to put it back in the back room.......................bob

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Red, Let me guess here. You are a small business owner/ entrepreneur and as you slowly found success you saw your neighbors slowly turn against you. You began to feel that people resented your success. It is amazing what jealousy will do to friends, even family. The community also thinks that you owe them and that you should donate large sums to send their kids to whatever sport camp they want to go to. Every organization wants a handout from the small business owner for their kids but when they go to spend their money, they go to a huge chain outlet instead of supporting the local independent businessman. I am guilty of shopping at Walmart, don't get me wrong. It is getting to the point that there is no place left to go, and I have to procure things that I need. I get a sick feeling when I shop there though. I hate checking out. Makes me feel guilty when I hand my money over to that machine of doom.

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You Guys are kiling me with this hate Wal-Mart stuff.

Do you hate the wolf that takes down the fawn or the old crippled buck? No its the cycle of nature and there is nothing to feel bad about.

I am a small business owner and am coming to the close of my first year in business. I lost money this year. That is common for start up operations. If I fail the answer will be found in the mirror not the walmart. I dont resent people who had a better idea than me an profitted by it. If anything I admire them. And as far as them using that money to buy luxury cars and things,,Its their money! They have the right to do whatever they want with it. and I say good on em.

Survival of the fittest applies to the free market and capitalism too. I just hope I am fit enough. But, if I'm not that just tells me I need a better idea and a better plan to sell it!

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No store squeezes their suppliers like Walmart does. A small candy company in my area was put into bankruptcy by Walmart. They would place huge orders contingent on deep discounts and then string the payment out for a up to a year. The company just couldn't carry that expenditure for that amount of time. Their employees needed their paychecks now. Their suppliers need paid now. Walmart does this with all it's suppliers. Even Scott Paper, a huge corporation, gets squeezed by Walmart. This is what evolving monopolies cause.

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There is an easy answer to this Walmart discussion. Those of you who don't like Walmart - don't shop there. It's your money, spend it where you want. Really, I don't care where you choose to spend your money. What I don't get is why are you so vocal about where I spend mine?

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Rick,
I hope it wasn't me that offended you. If you read my replies, you will see that I admit to shopping there. They have messed up alot of little towns and swallowed up alot of mom&pops. That is life in a free society, I guess. I do shop there but I don't have to feel good about it, do I?

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hey red....you must be one of them mom & pop store owners or a rolling in the riches dude that wouldn't be caught dead in a wal-mart store....wal-mart takes alot of hits on products that don't sell and sell it for less then they bought it for....boy that's a profit aint it....just cause you saw a tv show bout wal-mart and how they done some things to other people and there products doesn't mean they are making profit on everything...."example" rubbermaid said that they have to raise there prices cause of resin prices went up and had coop some of the expence....wal-mart said were not going to sell your product any more cause of higher prices....well rubbermaid almost went under til they got back with wal-mart and kept there prices down and now there just as big if not bigger then before all this with wal-mart dropping there product line of plastic bins and stuff....i guess the morel of the story is if you want to stay in the market you have to do what is needes to do so....my 2 cents worth and not because i work at wal-mart.....atleast i know what i'm talking bout before i talk......................bob

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Gee I shop at Walmart and love it.Am I not a good American?That is the supplies that they have,all others I get at my gun store.

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bob if you love your job with Wal-Mart then good for you, you NEVER work a day in your life if you enjoy getting up and going too work each day. BUT I hope you are comfortable making XX dollars an hour. Oh you "could" prove yourself and move up within the company but be prepared for LOOOOOOOONG salaried hours, moving every two years and up-rooting your family. And for what? That job you LOVE? Trust me, I lived next door to a "hatchet man" that came from the corporate headquarters in Bentonville, Ark. He was a GREAT guy, we rode Harley's and shared a love for sports cars. BUT even he admitted that having moved allover the country was the reason he was on his second marriage, didnt have kids (had sense enough NOT to bring them into that environment) and was simply waiting for the day he could retire without being raped by the governement for tax purposes. Now this was a man that earned a 6 figure salary and answered too the top brass in Ark. So go ahead and keep on thinking you know ALL there is to know about Wal-Mart.

Livbuck, THANK YOU. You hit the nail directly on the head. Most communities are just IGNORANT of the truth. Everyone says, "yeah I want you to make a profit" but they do it with tongue in cheek and they it really means "I want you to make a profit on someone OTHER than myself!".

PhoenixMA you'll learn bud. I wish you THE greatest success in the world and I hope you make more money than your grandkids can spend. BUT after you have been in the business world (real world if you will) after your 5th year, THEN you will have a different perspective about "capitalism". Making a profit is getting harder and harder. Customers demand unreasonable discounts, sales during peak profit expectation times (like right now during Christmas) and then after you lower your prices to compete along comes taxation that is getting worse and worse. Everytime you earn a profit the government (both local, state AND Federal) look to whack you off at the knees. Trust me, working for someone else is a leadpipe cinch compared to doing it yourself. I just wish most employees had a clue as too that statements correctness!!!

Hey, MERRY CHRISTMAS too EVERYONE on this board... even you Wallyworld patrons!!!
RA

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If only it were that simple. Its good to save a few bucks at Walmart. Just realize that RA is right. Walmart now buys 80 percent of its products from China and uses cheap chinese labor to drive American companies out of business, or over to China. At one time the manufactures made a product, set a price and sold it. Now Walmart says to them " We will pay xx dollars for your product, sell it for that or the chinese will. Like I said its not a simple problem but we will pay the price in the end. We just don't know yet what that price will be. By the way. I HOPE I AM WRONG. Is Walmart good for America? I doubt it. Yes I buy some things at Walmart. They are about the only thing left in this town. I can buy there or drive a 100 miles.

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YO RED....who said i love my job and where do you get off by saying i NEVER worked a day in my life....you DON'T KNOW ME to where you can say that bout me....i've most likely worked harder then you ever will or going to....i'm just stating facts on stuff thats go on sale there in the first place....and you come in here puting down tom dick and harry for what......................bob

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Eeeeeeeeeeasy Bob, you mis-understood me. I guess you have never heard the phrase, "If you love your job, you will never work a day in your life". That means that since its your love you wont feel like its a bother or drudgery or "work" everyday you get up and go in. I wasnt saying ANYTHING about your work ethic.

I wish EVERYONE could be in such a position, the workforce in this country would be MUCH better off. But thats for another day.

I said my piece,
RA

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If you show me a mom and pop store that sells only American or mostly American products,I will shop there in a minute.They just aren't out there.I do spend more and buy American on most of my big purchases.How can any mom and pop store compete against any chain?They can't.It is a fact of life so they have to get customers by going the extra mile to have excellent service.I love in my area how union Tops grocery chain is against Walmart.They pay about the same but you make more at Walmart by not paying union dues.They are afraid of competition.Tops moved from one location and built a new store but still paid rent on the old location so that no other stores could come in and compete.It is business.How many of you are willing to pay $200 for a Leupold scope when you cvan buy a Bushnell for $100?Not many.I did and am proud to say I try to buy American when i can.My muzzleloader is a TC Omega made in the good old USA.My kitchen knives cost me $700 but they were made not far from here by Cutco.They will be around long after the cheap Chinese knives.Don't buy brakes from China if you want them to last,they are so bad and wear out quickly.The quality of steel made in China and Japan can't compare to that made in the good old USA.They make it like plywood in layers not slabs like we make it.If I were President,the first law I would pass is that anything sold in the US with a flag on it would have to be made in America.I hate seeing those support our troops magnets made in China.A total joke.

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lol mdr this one could get INTERESTING!!! You mentioned the troop ribbons, what REALLY gripes me is seeing an American Flag on a Toyota/Nissan/Hyundai etc...

In all fairness, its just TOO late anymore to buy most products that are supplied domestically. The last 15 years or so (the "big growth" period for Wallyworld) has seen basically all the domestic mnfgrs leave the country for cheaper labor. Sure its partially the governments fault for supporting laws like "most favored trading nations" (that miserable excuse for a President Klintoon, he had to do something with all that weapons secrets he allowed them to have!) but its equally the everyday's citizens fault for "demanding cheaper prices" regardless of where they came from or what was necessary to get those "cheaper prices".

And one more thing before I slide this soapbox back under the desk and carry my kids out to sled, folks know they are wrong. Its a pyschological game they play with themselves. They say, "the best deal" when in actuality they mean "the cheapest price". But they cant bring themselves to admit it. Typical "ignore the facts" type of response by most Americans. Buncha CHEAPIES!!! See how cheap those products were when our kids and grandkids are working 2 hourly pay jobs to support themselves in coming generations!!!

Patriotism shouldn't stop in your checkbook,
RA

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red....sorry to get on ya like that it just looked to much like a lot of forum clowns that go that route on a guy for just asking a question and they thinks it a right to belittle people....in reality there just well i'll leave it to your imagenation....once again sorry....atleast ya said something and not got grumpy bout it....i just work at wal-mart cause it's an inside job at night with 3 nights off and 34 hours to boot with no more ditch jobs and 24 plowing days on x-mas and me gots all the time to be out in the woods for hunting....with flintlock opener on monday for 3 weeks..........................bob