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opening day of ML today in Jeresy. I'm in my stand by 5:30 and evrything is going good. Pull my ML up to my shoulder and look down the barrel. Guess what , my rear sight is gone ![:@] Was there when I left the house. POS plastic CVA junk. Not sure if I'm going out this afternoon as I dont knopw where my shots are gonna go. Will I be able to make a "good" shot w/out it ? I'm gonna be calling CVA soon as well. Guns shoots fine , just everything is frickin PLASTIC !!!!! [:'(]

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Looking at Cabela's online for a new ML as I'm typing this ;) or at least metal sights !

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Well ...just bought a Lymans Great Plains in .54 should be here next week. I'm done with CVA junk !

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There isn't much that can be done to bugger up a conventional sidehammer gun, if it is of decent quality. I'd rather have one Lyman Plains rifle than five of ANY inline!

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Just a note, CVA doesn't make that sight, A well named manufacturer does. I will let you all guess, because I am not going to caugh it up. I guess I should add a not, I am talking about the fiber optics, not the real cheap black one. I always get rid of that one and by a williams.

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You did mean 5 truckloads? :D The ole Lyman is a hard one to beat. Mines been a deer killing SOB. Rain or shine, no trouble with her.

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Be sure and give us a report on your new rifle Slugman.

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Some of the less expensive CVA's did come with a very poor quality fiber optic sight. My CVA Staghorn Magnum's sight cracked from the cold after only owning it a few weeks. Not a big deal. It is still hanging in there, and besides I put a Bushnell Trophy RED DOT on the rifle. Now this is a great deal.

Before I declare CVA a POS I would stop and consider what it is you bought in the first place. It was probably a low cost rifle. It probably shoots fine, just some of the small things about it upsets you. Well thats what you get when you buy some of the less expensive rifles out there. I own a few of them. I expect it.

I hope you have better luck with your Lyman. They are a great rifle.

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Where is the can ?

Doesnt that kinda defeat the purpose of hunting with a "primative" style weapon ?

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The Bushnell Trophy RED DOT is on an inline. So what? Many feel an inline is not all that traditional due to the 209 ignition and the way the breech seals out water. They are allowed their opinion. Besides, I like a RED DOT.

My personal opinion is too many people take this black powder personification thing a little too extreme. They think because another shooter uses a RED DOT, fiber optic sights, or a scope, they shoot an inline, or use a sabot projectile with a larger then "they use" powder charge that for some reason that makes them non-traditional or non-primitive. Well they still load from the muzzle, an no matter what you use to sight the rifle with or what comes out of the end when you pull the trigger pushed by what ever propellant they like. it's a muzzleloader no matter whether some people like it or not.

I never considered a muzzleloader a primitive weapon. In the hands of someone that knows what they are doing with the black powder rifles, they are "almost" as sure fired a weapon as any modern one out there, whether they are a caplock, flintlock, underhammer, or inline. The only difference is you normally get only one shot, which is all you should need anyway. You want a primitive hunt, go sharpen a stick.....

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Then I'll have something to go with my loin cloth :D Just a personal opinion that you use open sights on a ML. Not putting you down , we are all "hunters"

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Just a personal opinion that you use open sights on a ML.
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Scopes were on MLs in the 1800s. The ML Reenactment Clubs of today set rules they desire. Inlines go back to the mid 1850s.

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Same thing happend to mine. I returned it and said give me some better WELL BUILT site or im never buying another one. Well considering i walked in there the day befor and baught 4 CVA new frontier beartooth 50.cals the gave me 4 new tru light rear and front sights

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I made the mistake of buying a CVA. The gun had decent accuracy, any inconsistency was more likely from my Tasco scope. But the parts and quality of the whole CVA gun was horibble. I should have bought a T/C to begon with, instead I wasted $200 before spending a lot more for my Encore, which is truly a awesome gun. Save yourself headaches and save up for a Knight or T/C, the frustration I had wasnt worth putting up with.

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Not arguing against scopes, 'cause I use one...but weren't the scopes back then just narrow, hollow tubes that stertched the length of the barrel? Not even cross hairs, just center the target in the circle?

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Never had a problem with my CVA nor the fiber optic sights I put on it.The instructions said if it wasn't tight to tap the groves to make it tight.

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I'm surprised the rear sight would even fall off, it's held on my 2 screws, I know as I took mine off to accomodate my scope. I don't blame ya though for blaming CVA, so far i've gotten good accuracy out of my Optima although alot of people curse it. I shouldered a friend's Encore and really liked it so it probably will be my nest muzzleloader.

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I own a CVA Firebolt. I don't think they're in production anymore, becaue mine was a closeout model two years ago. Correct me if I'm wrong. I haven't had any trouble with mine. It shot great right out of the box. I've shot two deer with it and I'm planning on putting a scope on it by next season. As far as the primative vs. contemporary controversy goes, I bought a muzzleloader so I could have another week of deer hunting, not so I could go back in time. My $.02. :D

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FINALLY... THE truth is finally posted on the net.


"CVA POS", ;)
RA

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Here's what my Piece Of Sunshine CVA has done to me:









Please, no more CVA's!! I'm running out of room in my freezer!;)

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Wait until you are 65 or older and come back and tell me that you only want to use open sights. Some of us can't see open sights that well and the game deserve the best shot possible, restrictions that cause less than the best shot make no sense to me. I'm lucky to be in Arizona where they allow the best there is for the "Muzzleloader" not "Primitive" hunt.

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True , but I have about 30 more years to go.

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The good part is if you work it right the next 30 will be more fun than the first. At 66 after cancer surgery, a broken shoulder, four broken ribs and some stuff I forgot; I still hunt, shoot, ride my bikes and just need a little help seeing both sights and the target (thats where the low power scope comes in). By the way I had fun all the way along and am looking forward to the next 30. Sure would be nice to start at your age again.

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Just started hunting again 2 yrs ago ...was a 10yr lull. Got back into so I could hunt with my dad. He has a chemo port in his right shoulder now so been hunting mostly by myself. Sure miss those hunts with dad. I told him can still come out and be my sherpa. Did you have prostate taken out ? if you dont mind me asking .....my dads was taken out like 12yrs ago. Its just now catching back up with him.

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Sorry to hear about your experience Slugman. Plastic has no place on any blackpowder gun especially in very cold weather. I started out with a CVA and I suppose its decomposing somewhere very nicely the POS. I only became aware of what a real Muzzleloader was when I purchased my White Super 91 that was sweet . COmpany is having financial difficulties now and I wouldn't purchase another. I have always loved that Lyman Great Plains Rifle though and I doubt anything will break on that. Good Choice.

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Slugman: Yep had the surgery. PSA slightly increasing after 8 years. I am controling with organic diet and Elk Meat. If your dad or you wants to go on with this email me at:[email protected] so as to not plug up the site with medical stuff.

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Quigley good to see you here Ol'e buddy.I'll be seeing you here and there.

Ruger Redhawk

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ok ive had enough of this cva pos..cva is a great gun..one of the most common ML's around..now me being the "traditional" shooter i am..i dont use sights..its more of a challenge for me not to..i suggest older people yeah its fine to use sights cuz of your sight..but younger ppl..we dont need that advantage..ur takin the easy way out i see it..

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Ok - a few questions for you. By saying you are a "traditional" shooter am I to understand you are shooting a flintlock with blackpowder and round balls? If not, where does your defination of "traditional" come from? Is there an official rule book somewhere or is yours a personal defination? Is it only sights (do you mean scopes) that are not traditional or are sabots, primers, inlines, and blackpowder substitutes ruled out also?

Sights (again do you mean scopes) are fine for older people? What is older? 25 is older than 21. 60 is older than 50. At what age do you become older so sights are allowed? What if a 16 year has bad eye sight? I really need to see this rulebook.

I suggest you shoot what you want and don't be concerned about what is "traditional" or at what age is is ok to use a scope or what equpment others may choose to shoot. The only reason I would ever see a need to classify any mz equipment would be to see if it fits in a primitive season - and then the trend seems to be away from them.

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its called using ur common sense..if you think your up to the challenge to not use sights..which when i say sights i mean scope..then you shouldnt be using one..if your sight is bad..then you mite need to use a scope..no age bracket here..just plain common sense buddy..;)

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When I go deer hunting,I want as much of an advantage as I can have.If that means putting a scope on my Omega,then I did it.Do I feel bad about it?No,I feel I owe it to the deer to kill them as quick and efficiently as possible.I also can hit a 2 inch circle at 100 yards with it.Without a scope,I don't think I could do that.I also plan on shooting long range so I would rather be prepared than miss or wound an animal and have it suffer.There are always alot of things that can happen with muzzleloaders.I do not feel bad using an inline over guys that use semi-automatic shotguns.I have to be right on with my first shot.

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its not cva's fault cva doesnt even make the sights for their guns i believe its truglo that makes the sights for cva. dont go blaming cva ya dork!!!! the funny thing is not only does cva use those sights but any muzzle loader made by BPI uses them so that means winchester, traditions, and new frontier all use those junky plastic sights. Also those sights just dont fall off unless the screws came loose or you actually broke the rear sight off. you can throw your cva in my trash can if you like I happen to like CVA's after I put a nice set of williams sights on them.

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For someone with a bible quote in their sig. line , you sure are quick with the insults. Right back at ya ! Good to see you have a strong vocabulary to boot

Actually , they do. The rear sight is on a slide , with the screw being in the main piece. So the slide can fall off. At least be sure of your statements before you post as well.

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I am sure because I own 2 cva's a firebolt and a hunterbolt and the hunterbolt has those quote Cr@ppy plastic sights ( which i never had a problem with ) the firebolt i put a set of williams sights on it because when i got the gun the rear sight was removed so a pos trashco scope could fit on it, when i got the rifle from my brother he couldnt find the rear sight.....

I know the rear sight is on a slide ramp....... just have to make sure you have the set screw tightened enough and it wont go anywhere....

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Thanks RR, glad to be here.

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Sorry to hear that ;)

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slugman I know you are sorry.........., My CVA's are accurate enough for what i do and are low maintenance and if i drop them scuff them, get them dirty or for that matter break something owell their not expensive could replace either for less then 200 bucks. I've killed several missouri whitetail with the hunterbolt and killed a colorado 5x5 elk last year with the firebolt, Im not sorry at all.

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I own the cheapest of cheap the, CVA Mountain Stalker and just bought my grandson a CVA Bobcat.POS,not for what I want.Do I have a two hundred yard shot ,no.They both shoot good enough for me.Mine has fiber optic sights because of my eyes,he's learning with the front blade.