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TreestandEd 05-09-2004 07:54 AM

CVA Limitations
 
I remeber reading and some discussion on here on how CVA has bullet weight limitation of 300g.
I need to know if there is real danger shooting heavier bullets. or is it for insurance reasons/liability ect...
Reason I ask is Id like to put together a Elk load preferbly 348g PB Aero tips.

CVA Optima pro
Thanks
TE

txhunter58 05-09-2004 08:06 AM

RE: CVA Limitations
 
I have never heard of that, and would certainly be interested in that info also. I have a friend that uses a 348 powerbelt in his CVA for elk and has never had any problems.

Triple Se7en 05-09-2004 08:39 AM

RE: CVA Limitations
 
Don't exceed 100 grains powder & 400 grain conical combination. I would imagine that 90 grains powder & the 405 Powerbelt would meet CVA's standards. You can use 100 grains of powder with the 348 Powerbelt... which is classified as a conical. There is no sense in using magnum powder charges with Powerbelts anyways.... in most cases... they shoot lousy target groups with their thin gas checks or even entirely blow the gas checks with hot & heavy 777 powder charges.

TreestandEd 05-09-2004 09:22 AM

RE: CVA Limitations
 
Thanks Tripple Seven the way the word it is a little confusing.
From owners manual
"Always follow recommended loading data when selecting bullet type
and weight. When using saboted bullets and pelletized powder, maxi-mum
bullet weight should not exceed 300 grains. With loose powder
loads, conical lead bullets should never exceed 400 grains. Heavier
bullets may produce dangerously high pressure levels, possibly result-ing
in explosion of the gun and severe injury to the shooter and by-standers."

Ruger-Redhawk 05-09-2004 11:14 AM

RE: CVA Limitations
 
If your still in doubt contact CVA.If they recommend staying at a 300gr bullet or below they must have a documented reason why.I'm sure they have a technical advisor at their facility you could talk to.Because someone shoots that load and hasn't had a problem doing so,it doesn't mean it's safe to do.I recommend staying within what CVA or any manufactuer's recommendations. These guns are tested and rated for safe use within their guildlines.

Ruger Redhawk

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Bugeaters 05-20-2004 03:55 PM

RE: CVA Limitations
 
i believe cva suggest you don't use over 100 grains of powder with any conicals over 300 grains. i believe that is because it would create way too much pressure for the barrel to take. not for sure just started muzzleloading.

cayugad 05-20-2004 07:50 PM

RE: CVA Limitations
 
I shoot the 348 grain powerbelts all the time out of my Staghorn with 90 grains of Pyrodex RS with great results. I also shoot 320 grain real conicals with 100 grains of Pyrodex RS, again no problem. I have shot conicals that are 426 grains with 80 grains of Pyrodex RS. No accuracy there, but no damage to the rifle. I have even shot minnie balls out of the Staghorn. Again with 80 grains of RS and no damage to the rifle. The thing I would do is keep the charge under 100 grains, and the larger the conical, the smaller the charge.

I have also shot conicals over the 300 range, although with the Staghorn I seem to find that it likes the lighter conicals. The 240 & 250 grain range.

Bugeaters 05-20-2004 09:52 PM

RE: CVA Limitations
 
cayugad i think you were agreeing with me. when i said not to use more than 100 grains of powder with conicals over 300 grains. all the charges you stated were 100 or less. if i am mistaken sorry.


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