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1874sharpsshooter 08-21-2019 09:01 AM

Awesome shooting. I would say that Bullet is a winner . Like you , I prefer as close to pure lead as possible for hunting. I painted my gongs today :) in anticipation of shooting a few of them and see what happens from 100 to 500.

edmehlig 08-21-2019 11:08 AM

As usual Lew OUTSTANDING shooting. Yep, I think I would stick with the 90gr load. How was the recoil?? :D

bronko22000 08-21-2019 02:24 PM

Sweet Lewis. And nowhere near the recoil of the big 540 grainer.

Idaholewis 08-21-2019 11:50 PM


Originally Posted by 1874sharpsshooter (Post 4359885)
Awesome shooting. I would say that Bullet is a winner . Like you , I prefer as close to pure lead as possible for hunting. I painted my gongs today :) in anticipation of shooting a few of them and see what happens from 100 to 500.


Got a Box of 50 of them done for ya, 18 pounds of Certified Pure Lead went in my 20 Pound Pot, i added 1 Small Lyman ingot of my 1-40 Alloy to help with Fill Out, These Bullets are SOFT! EVERY SINGLE Bullet Weighs 450.5 Grains, So these aren’t Close, they are DEAD ON PERFECT :cool2: They Measure .452 On the Button, You will probably need to Size them? But then again as soft as these are Maybe you won’t? They might be perfect for a Hunting Bullet in your Ultra Light the way they are? That Bore is pretty tight though. Anyway, you have a Sizer if you end up needing to adjust them




I will send them in this BACO Carton, this way they are individually protected, If you happen to Drop a Bullet use it as a Fouler. Keep them PRISTINE PERFECT :D This is a VERY VERY CRITICAL Step That gets overlooked, LARGE Percentage of Folks think “It won’t make difference” YES it does!! A dinged Bullet Base will Show on target, Maybe not at 100? But it WILL eventually Show! Why chance that? No need to, Load ONLY perfect Bullets








hardcastonly 08-24-2019 04:17 AM

what is the actual measured with a caliper or micrometer, as cast,
diameter and length, of the bullet?
is that really .452 like the caliper shows
and do you know what your bore diam, is?
yes it looks darn impressive as is your results,
and you obviously cast a precision bullet,
(also impressive consistency)

Idaholewis 08-24-2019 04:45 AM


Originally Posted by hardcastonly (Post 4360087)
what is the actual measured with a caliper or micrometer, as cast, diameter and length, of the bullet?
is that really .452 like the caliper shows
and do you know what your bore diam, is?
yes it looks darn impressive as is your results,
and you obviously cast a precision bullet,
(also impressive consistency)

I had the Bullet made to Drop from the Mold at .453, I ran these Particular Bullets through a .452 Sizer. My reasoning for going with .453 is that my Knight Mountaineer has a .452 Bore, I shoot “Slip Fit” Bullets for Target/Bench, And of course a Snugger Fit for Hunting. I can achieve both with a .453 Diameter Bullet. For hunting, i would load directly from the Mold, For Target i Run them through a .452 Sizer so they just “Kiss” the Rifling on the way down.

I have 3 other .45 Cal Muzzleloaders with .450, to .451 Bores, I can Size this .453 Down to .449-.450 to “Slip Fit” Them, Or Hunt them if i chose to? .449 is what i did with this Bullet yesterday for my Rice 1:20 Twist Sidelock i have in the other thread.

hardcastonly 08-24-2019 04:57 AM

that makes a lot of sense, I've generally found bore sizes at .458-.459
in the rifles Ive cast bullets for, thats why I was curious

Idaholewis 08-24-2019 05:06 AM


Originally Posted by hardcastonly (Post 4360089)
that makes a lot of sense, I've generally found bore sizes at .458-.459
in the rifles Ive cast bullets for, thats why I was curious

You mean Groove Diameter? .450-.452 is the most Common Bore Diameter (Rifling) in Muzzleloaders, With .458 Groove.

Like this

https://www.buffaloarms.com/krieger-...barrel-kri4516



hardcastonly 08-24-2019 05:15 AM

yes! thats why I have generally cast bullets that fill the groove diam. at .459,
and why I find your excellent accuracy with a significantly smaller projectile rather surprising,
but obviously, it works fine in your case,
and yes before you ask, its a p.i.t.a. to ram a full diam bullet down the bore.
but it can be done and accuracy can be maintained doing so,
generally with a precisely indexed false muzzle guide



Idaholewis 08-24-2019 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by hardcastonly (Post 4360094)
yes! thats why I have generally cast bullets that fill the groove diam. at .459,
and why I find your excellent accuracy with a significantly smaller projectile rather surprising,
but obviously, it works fine in your case,
and yes before you ask, its a p.i.t.a. to ram a full diam bullet down the bore.
but it can be done and accuracy can be maintained doing so

Soft lead (Most Common in Muzzleloaders) And All the way up to 1-16 Alloy (used by Some BPCR Guys) Will “BUMP” Up and Fill the Grooves upon Firing. I use an 1/8” Thick Wool Felt Over Powder Wad on top of the Powder, Then push my Bullet down on Top of it. In my .45 Cals i prefer an Oversized .50 Cal Diameter Wool Felt Wad, This protects the Bullet Base, and also stops, or Drastically cuts back on Gasses escaping by the Bullet before it “BUMPS” up. Major cause of Barrel leading


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