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longbowelk 06-08-2018 04:03 PM

CVA Accura 27” vs Knight Mountaineer 27” .50s
 
I currently have a CVA Accura PR 27" Thumbhole stock 50 cal. I have only had it a few weeks. I am mainly shooting 435 to 450 lead conicals. I have an old Knight Wolverine that I bought years ago. The gun seemed to be well made even with the plastic type stock. As far as the Knight Mountaineer I have read some good things about it and I am just wondering if it is all they say it is. Accuracy guarantee of 4" at 200 yards is what Knight claims. They don't mention what load and bullet was used. At least I haven't seen it. Could that be achieved with the right load and a 450 gr lead conical ? I see some of you have both so would you mind sharing your opinions of the two? How do the two compare in accuracy, handling,etc. What about service? Thanks to all...Alan

bronko22000 06-10-2018 05:47 PM

I just saw a thread on here about CVA not wanting people to shoot conicals over 400 gr. So take that for what its worth. I have a CVA Accura V2 and I love it. It shoots plenty accurate enough for me and I've killed everything I shot at with it using 295 gr Barnes bullets. I've also shot 300 gr Hornady XTPs (.429") using Harvester green CR sabots.
I don't have a Knight anymore. Not because it wasn't accurate. But because I disliked the firing/safety system.

Muley Hunter 06-11-2018 05:34 AM

Cape Buffalo Hunt.
Guns were CVA Accura V2s. 130 grs Pyrodex RS was there propellant. Special ordered Safari grade 480 gr Power Belt bullets were used. Strengthened with a flat nosed cap for hunting buffalo and elephants. Muzzle energy was chronographed at 2690.

BarnesAddict 06-11-2018 10:39 AM


Muley Hunter 06-11-2018 12:53 PM

Go to bed earlier.

BarnesAddict 06-11-2018 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by Muley Hunter (Post 4336786)
Go to bed earlier.

Can't get to sleep! I have a new Polaris XP 1000 Ranger coming :)

sabotloader 06-11-2018 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by Muley Hunter (Post 4336765)
Cape Buffalo Hunt.
Guns were CVA Accura V2s. 130 grs Pyrodex RS was there propellant. Special ordered Safari grade 480 gr Power Belt bullets were used. Strengthened with a flat nosed cap for hunting buffalo and elephants. Muzzle energy was chronographed at 2690.

But! I would bet you if you and I shot that same load and had a malfunction - CVA would not warrant the rifle!

Muley Hunter 06-12-2018 06:04 AM

It might be interesting to find out. I know when I called them and asked about shooting the Powerbelt 444gr in a CVA they said it was ok. They put themselves in a box by selling CVA's and Powerbelts. It's hard for them to say we can't use what they sell.

Idaholewis 06-12-2018 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by Muley Hunter (Post 4336765)
Cape Buffalo Hunt.
Guns were CVA Accura V2s. 130 grs Pyrodex RS was there propellant. Special ordered Safari grade 480 gr Power Belt bullets were used. Strengthened with a flat nosed cap for hunting buffalo and elephants. Muzzle energy was chronographed at 2690.


This made me think of the post below

Val Forgett of Navy Arms took their .58 caliber Hawken Hunter on African safari, they worked up loads for it using a 610 gr. Minie and 200 grains of FFFg. It was a 9 1/4-lb. rifle. He said recoil wasn't as bad as expected when shooting offhand, was "a bit punishing" from the bench. They settled on 180 grains FFFg, and he killed a lot of big game with that load.

I dug this up after buying 1 of these Navy Arms Hawken Hunters New unfired. I read another piece where he hit an African Lion and took out both shoulders. Hard for me to imagine 180-200 Grains of 3F with a 610 Grain bullet in front of it, especially this Swiss stuff i shoot

BarnesAddict 06-13-2018 03:26 AM


Originally Posted by 54bore (Post 4336872)



This made me think of the post below

Val Forgett of Navy Arms took their .58 caliber Hawken Hunter on African safari, they worked up loads for it using a 610 gr. Minie and 200 grains of FFFg. It was a 9 1/4-lb. rifle. He said recoil wasn't as bad as expected when shooting offhand, was "a bit punishing" from the bench. They settled on 180 grains FFFg, and he killed a lot of big game with that load.

I dug this up after buying 1 of these Navy Arms Hawken Hunters New unfired. I read another piece where he hit an African Lion and took out both shoulders. Hard for me to imagine 180-200 Grains of 3F with a 610 Grain bullet in front of it, especially this Swiss stuff i shoot

I shoot an Ultimate Firearms BP Xpress, using 180grs but only a 300gr bullet. TRUST ME..... it'll get your attention quickly. I can't imagine sending a 610gr bullet with that charge.


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