Originally Posted by 1874sharpsshooter

I only seen one grand Alaskan and I am pretty sure it was a 1:32. Maybe we should ask if any other DWB knows for sure. Could confirm with Doc but sometimes it takes a while to hear back from him . The Grand Alaskan was basically a 54 cal super 91 with a heavy barrel. I remember Doc talking about how accurate it was with 750 gr conical and 200 gr powder if you want a gun for African hunt .

Originally Posted by 54bore

I have several Fast Twist barrels from .45 to .54 Cal that shoot lights out good with Conicals, Paper Patched and Grease Groove, My fast twist barrels range from 1:18 to 1:32 twist, What conical are you shooting? I have 1 rifle that is finicky, it is a Stainless Green Mountain LRH .50 Caliber, this particular rifle will not shoot a Pure lead bullet worth a darn, But when i bump the Lead hardness up to 8 Brinell, and all the way up to 15 Brinell This rifle comes alive! All of my other rifles will shoot soft lead, or slightly hardened equally well. Something about the Stainless? My friend Idahoron has experienced the same thing with his Stainless Green Mountain barrels (Ron runs between 8-9 Brinell Hardness with his Alloy) I am not familiar with your particular rifle, is it a Stainless barrel? If so, Maybe it needs a slightly harder bullet like ours in order to perform well? Also, I absolutely swear by using Wool felt for an Over Powder Wad with any Grease Groove bullet, In my testing, my results were never that great with Hard Card (.060 Vege Fibre) and Grease Groove bullets, Wool felt under the GG bullet base has been the clear winner for me, I seat a Hard Card (.060 Vege Fibre) on the powder, then a wool felt on top of the Hard Card, And seat my bullet. The Hard Card might not be needed? But sure hasn’t hurt anything in all of my testing. I feel the most important part is having the Grease Groove bullet on top of a Wool felt Wad.

Originally Posted by longbowelk

I have not tried the wads so that would be first to see if it will tighten the group. One rifle I'm working with is TC Hawken with the GM LRH barrel with 1:30 twist. The conicals are my own cast 450s at .504, sized to .502. Pure lead. The same load in another TC Hawken with the original 1:48 twist shoots a much tighter group. It must be a fluke deal as the first TC Hawken with its original 1:48 Barrel is not that great. I guess that proves up the point that there all different and you just have to find what they like. The wads may be the ticket. If not, maybe a harder bullet. I'm also working with a CVA Optima with 1:28 twist trying to get conicals to fly. Will try the wads there too.

Originally Posted by Gm54-120

I only remember hearing about the twist in the 54cal Bisons. Im pretty sure they were 1-28. The info page for the Grand Alaskan is blank.

Ive shot a few 580 Parkers in my 54-120. They are pretty rough in that rifle. Even the more common weights are a bit of a bruiser.

Originally Posted by longbowelk

I've tried some conicals with CVA Optima with 1:28 twist. Im using open sights (peep)Did ok up to 50 yds but started going terrible at 75 so no need testing 100. Used 70 & 80 grains of BH209, Black MZ and T7 with 437 gr conical. Anyone have a particular rifle with 1:28, 1:30, 1:32 using 400 to 450 gr conicals that shoots good?