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rafsob 01-04-2018 11:45 AM

New Acquisition!!!
 
So a buddy of mine had this handgun he wanted and it was mine. He had a Traditions Vortex that he wanted to trade plus some cash. I said ok, because I wanted one I could now use in Virginia for hunting.



Will need to buy a cope and I'm looking for one now. I will run different loads through it to find the bet on.

Now if the weather will calm down and be nice for a change!!!

t.shaffer 01-05-2018 07:37 AM

bought one of those vortex pistol @ a gun shop brand new for 200 bucks & can't use it for muzzy hunting but can use it to hunt squirrels & etc but not legal for deer . i lovethis gun same exact one that is pictured. having a hard time finding scope rail mount it's a 183a. finally may of found one & will be putting a scope on it. i shoot 70 grains of bh209 & a barnes300 grain expander hollow point.love this set up can't wait to put a scope on it. and i just found out that i can use it on a christmas tree farm for deer damage. i talked to traditions & they say my load is good up to 100 yrds. but they recommend staying withing 75yrds.

Gm54-120 01-05-2018 08:14 AM

I would be all over one in 45cal. They would be a hoot with Ed's 350gr conical and a bit easier to load than a tight fitting sabot.

wildeboer 01-05-2018 08:31 AM

Used to have one a few years ago, 70grains of Wano(real black powder on my country) and a 240gr XTP did the job on a warthog nicely. But I traded it on a 12g b/p shotgun, more practical for my farmtrips...

rafsob 01-05-2018 12:28 PM

Glad about the use of BH209. I’m partial to it. I will check different billets but for this gun I would think the 300 gr. XTP would be nice.

t.shaffer 01-06-2018 09:42 AM

just found out my local gun shop found a base & it's on it's way. have not decideon a scope maybe one from cabelas or use a bushnell red dot.

rafsob 01-06-2018 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by t.shaffer (Post 4324921)
just found out my local gun shop found a base & it's on it's way. have not decideon a scope maybe one from cabelas or use a bushnell red dot.

Don't forget about Ebay. They have some nice scopes and prices!1

t.shaffer 01-06-2018 05:36 PM

thanks will check it out

stripercrazy 01-07-2018 06:20 AM

great looking gun

toytruck 01-07-2018 05:21 PM

You only have a 70gr. maximum recommended load for that pistol. I went with the CVA Optima V2 pistol with 100gr. max. I shoot 80gr of BH209 in her, super accurate for a 14" barrel, but hold on tight!!!:D

rafsob 01-08-2018 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by toytruck (Post 4325054)
You only have a 70gr. maximum recommended load for that pistol. I went with the CVA Optima V2 pistol with 100gr. max. I shoot 80gr of BH209 in her, super accurate for a 14" barrel, but hold on tight!!!:D

That doesn't bother me on the 70 gr. restriction. I don't have that, "Mine is bigger then yours" syndrome!! I have killed deer in a sidelock with a 65gr. charge before. Plus here in Virginia the woods are really thick and a 75 yd shot is considered long range!

But remember, the length of the barrel pretty much controls the amount of powder effectively used, burned. I'm sure that the 100gr. charge in that CVA doesn't all get burned in the barrel and a good portion goes lining on the ground!!

Gm54-120 01-08-2018 08:40 AM

A guy that goes by Busta on another board shoots a 200gr bullet in a 50x40 sabot in his CVA Optima Pistol. Considering the fps limitations, a 40cal 200gr XTP sounds like a good fun load with the potential for smacking deer also. Busta shoots a 200gr SST over 80gr IIRC.

You could surely do the same thing with 50x45 sabots and some cheap 45ACP bullets too for recreation.

ronlaughlin 01-08-2018 11:43 AM

The Speer 210 grain Gold Dot could be 'perfect' for the new hand gun for deer hunting??





















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Gm54-120 01-09-2018 12:20 PM

I would be happy with one that was smaller. Such as a 45cal 1-20 using just a 350gr conical and about 60gr of powder :p

That would be all kinds of fun and more powerful than a 44mag :D

GOOD OLE BOY 01-09-2018 05:18 PM

I have the same pistol and like the wood.I shoot Pyrodex 50-50 pellets cause I have a lot of em on hand.I shoot round balls thru it and luv shootin it bare back.I never had a interest in the CVA cause it don,t come in wood and does not come with sites.

t.shaffer 01-10-2018 01:34 AM

just picked up the scope rail mount by traditions & put it on & now searching for the scope. may possibly put a red dot on it not sure yet.

rafsob 01-14-2018 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by ronlaughlin (Post 4325140)
The Speer 210 grain Gold Dot could be 'perfect' for the new hand gun for deer hunting??


Actually we used this bullet in my service gun as duty ammo. But would this bullet be any better then the XTP? And what sabot would I use?

hunters_life 01-14-2018 10:48 AM

Between the GD and the XTP for your pistol ML rafsob, I'd have to give the nod to the GD. The XTP is an excellent bullet not to mention it's the only saboted bullet that will shoot out of my Renegade worth a damn, that GD will be perfectly suited to shoot out of that pistol length barrel for one, and the GD's tend to penetrate quite well and retain most, if not all, of their weight. I haven't tested expansion on either in quite some time but my memory seems to be telling me that the GD's had excellent reliability on expansion at a wider range of velocities. But it really boils down to which bullet shoots the most accurate from your pistol as either are quality deer slayers.

rafsob 01-14-2018 03:13 PM

My department tested the GD bullet on penetration and jacket retention through different media to include 3/4” plywood and car windshields. The bullet was amazing. So I would say the bullet comes highly rated in that respect. Now I need to verify the accuracy of the two bullets!!!

Been using and killing many deer over the years with the Hornaday XTP. So the GD has a lot to prove. But it will be fun!!!


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