CVA & Traditions warranty, quality & Service
12-22-2017, 08:06 PM
#1
Fork Horn
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 205
CVA & Traditions warranty, quality & Service
Now I would like to give credit where credit is due.
Awhile after the CVA Accura LR came out I bought one from CVA. When I got it I proceeded to clean it. A new bronze brush with 10 strokes would be cut to pieces and have no resistance what so ever. I cleaned and cleaned but the barrel would not come clean. I called CVA and expressed my concerns, they were not as concerned at the time. I did not have to shim the breech plug bushing.
I took the gun out and shot it, it was a clean shooting gun but a POS. Trying to clean it was even worse. I called CVA and expressed my concerns again. This time they said send it back to them. When UPS returned my gun wouldn't you know it was a new one, cleaned right up and shot nice. I would recommend a CVA gun for great Warranty, quality, and Customer Service. Also the Breech Plugs actually last awhile.
A few years later I bought a TRADITIONS Strikefire black with stainless barrel. It cleaned up nicely and when I tried to shoot it guess what, POS. After quite a while and a nice supply of targets I contacted Traditions, told them of my problems. They said to send the gun too them with some of the bullets and sabots that I used along with the scope I was using on the gun. I got together a number of bullets and sabots that I was using and informed them that I was using 110 grains of BH 209. I also put my targets on a disk so they could see exactly what I was talking about with the various bullets. Boxed it all up and sent it to Traditions.
It wasn't long after that their gunsmith called me and informed me that he had shot the gun and came up with the same results as me. He even tested it with some bullets Traditions sells and said the results were still the same. He told me that they were sending me a new gun, but instead of a black stock, they were sending me one with a camo stock. Also with a lot of shooting their breech plugs last about a year and the gun did not require any shimming to make it shoot clean. The new gun shot very well.
I think I would also recommend Traditions because of their Warranty, Quality, and Customer Service.
I know my luck of buying a muzzleloader runs at the low end of the stick, I am 67 years old and I think buying new muzzleloaders Is a thing of the past.
Awhile after the CVA Accura LR came out I bought one from CVA. When I got it I proceeded to clean it. A new bronze brush with 10 strokes would be cut to pieces and have no resistance what so ever. I cleaned and cleaned but the barrel would not come clean. I called CVA and expressed my concerns, they were not as concerned at the time. I did not have to shim the breech plug bushing.
I took the gun out and shot it, it was a clean shooting gun but a POS. Trying to clean it was even worse. I called CVA and expressed my concerns again. This time they said send it back to them. When UPS returned my gun wouldn't you know it was a new one, cleaned right up and shot nice. I would recommend a CVA gun for great Warranty, quality, and Customer Service. Also the Breech Plugs actually last awhile.
A few years later I bought a TRADITIONS Strikefire black with stainless barrel. It cleaned up nicely and when I tried to shoot it guess what, POS. After quite a while and a nice supply of targets I contacted Traditions, told them of my problems. They said to send the gun too them with some of the bullets and sabots that I used along with the scope I was using on the gun. I got together a number of bullets and sabots that I was using and informed them that I was using 110 grains of BH 209. I also put my targets on a disk so they could see exactly what I was talking about with the various bullets. Boxed it all up and sent it to Traditions.
It wasn't long after that their gunsmith called me and informed me that he had shot the gun and came up with the same results as me. He even tested it with some bullets Traditions sells and said the results were still the same. He told me that they were sending me a new gun, but instead of a black stock, they were sending me one with a camo stock. Also with a lot of shooting their breech plugs last about a year and the gun did not require any shimming to make it shoot clean. The new gun shot very well.
I think I would also recommend Traditions because of their Warranty, Quality, and Customer Service.
I know my luck of buying a muzzleloader runs at the low end of the stick, I am 67 years old and I think buying new muzzleloaders Is a thing of the past.
Last edited by d.winsor; 01-02-2018 at 01:24 AM.
12-23-2017, 02:43 AM
#2
Typical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: fairview park oh
Posts: 657
t/c once had a excellant warranty program & when s&w bought them they now are a pos to deal with.for god sake they don't even want or will to send out a catalog. i however did end up buying 2 traditions muzzleloaders.the vortex ldr & g4 pursuit. love them both. have not had a issue with either gun. ask them for a catalog & you get one not like t/c LOOK ON LINE is what you get. i see traditions came out the the stryker fire in the mountain rifle. & yet to see one. instead of a 30" barrel you get a 26" barrel great for stalking game.
12-23-2017, 07:02 AM
#3
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Rapid City, South Dakota
Posts: 3,732
My experience is the Knight extreme, elite, and mountaineer all shoot Blackhorn powder reliably without modification. TC Omega rifles shoot Blackhorn powder reliably without modification.
The CVA Accura, and the CVA Optima both require a breech plug modification, to reliably ignite Blackhorn powder.
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The CVA Accura, and the CVA Optima both require a breech plug modification, to reliably ignite Blackhorn powder.
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12-24-2017, 06:59 AM
#4
Spike
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 54
12-24-2017, 07:25 AM
#5
Fork Horn
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 205
Other than having grouping issues when I first bought it, I haven't had any problems, I had the black stock model. I called Traditions and they told me to send it to them with scope on the gun and bullets used. I also sent a disk with my targets @ 100 yards. They checked the gun and sent me a new camo stock model asap.
I have never experienced any type of problem with the ignition of the primer or the powder charge. I consider it a very reliable gun. My gun likes the Barnes TMZ 290 grain with the original Sabot that comes with it and 115 grains of Blackhorn 209, I average about 1 1/2" groups @ 100 yards.
It is a clean shooting gun out of box, The breech plug installs and removes easily and quickly and requires no modifications to shoot Blackhorn 209.
I have never experienced any type of problem with the ignition of the primer or the powder charge. I consider it a very reliable gun. My gun likes the Barnes TMZ 290 grain with the original Sabot that comes with it and 115 grains of Blackhorn 209, I average about 1 1/2" groups @ 100 yards.
It is a clean shooting gun out of box, The breech plug installs and removes easily and quickly and requires no modifications to shoot Blackhorn 209.
12-24-2017, 11:21 AM
#6
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 5,605
Traditions has not offered a stainless barrel in ages. Its chromoly with a cerakote type finish and they wont warranty the coating if it rusts according to several posts ive seen.
Primers are also hard on the alloy frame since it has no steel bushing like a CVA. Traditions would be the absolute last ML i would ever buy.
Primers are also hard on the alloy frame since it has no steel bushing like a CVA. Traditions would be the absolute last ML i would ever buy.
Last edited by Gm54-120; 12-24-2017 at 11:32 AM.