It concerns me the type of smoke. This rifle may have been charged with smokeless propellant???

ALWAYS USE A WITNESS MARK! NEVER USE SMOKELESS PROPELLANT IN A RIFLE DESIGNED FOR BP OR BPS!

If smokeless was not used, one would assume it was double charged and/or a bullet was short seated. Those Remington Ultimate barrels are extremely strong barrels to have this happen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=210M...ature=youtu.be

Interesting pics that might tell more about what happened. Sorry for the small size. The video resolution was poor so i didnt want to enlarge the photos.

Looks like there is a Muzzle Brake on it, not standard from the factory on that rifle as far as I know.

Nope, the RU does not come with a brake. The owner had someone install a tactical brake, as seen in both video and stills. You can notice that its most likely not the first time the rifle's been shot, as in slow motion you can see his range card taped to the stock.

Re-watching the video and owning a smokeless muzzleloader myself that cloud of smoke does not look like it would come from smokeless powder.

look at the point were barrel blow looks like 10 to 12 ins. I would say double load of pellets and bullets each pellet or around 1 in x 8 = 8in two bullets or around 1 in x 2= 2 so 8+2 = 10in. A witness mark would have stopped this. hope the guy will be ok.

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Found this:


https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...C178&FORM=VIRE


The barrel split along the flutes. Did a sabot from a previous shot stick in the muzzle brake?

I would be shocked if a double load did that kind of damage to that rifle. I think the bullet was accidently loaded upside down, or there was a gap in between the double load. Bottom line is, it will truly be hard to ever know what happened.

CONFIRMED...... It WAS a double charge. The shooter had left the rifle loaded from last year and not knowing it, or using a witness mark, loaded it again.

Witness marks are a MUST, not an option.

I saw that "someone" on Youtube claimed it was a double load including bullets.

That would certainly be my guess. 4 pellets, bullet and 4 pellets, bullet would make some crazy high pressures and pretty much match the peak of the rupture.