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super_hunt54 03-03-2017 06:51 PM

Idiots at USPS (Little off topic)
 
So, A good while back I had my son send Clem (Bronko) some old shockwaves I had laying around that I wouldn't use. He had some difficulties at the desk with the lady trying to say "you can't send ammunition in the mail"! After going around and around with this retard for a bit he asked to speak with the supervisor. "Sir I AM the supervisor and I am telling you you can not send that through the mail"...It took the poor boy 15 or so minutes to get this complete moron to understand that a bullet is not LOADED ammunition.

Forward to today...Another buddy of mine was in a clench and couldn't find his favorite bullet ANYWHERE online or at a brick and mortar. Had a couple hundred in the bin so I told him I'd send him 100 till he could find some. I think I ran into the exact same MORON at the PO down here!!! Maybe they transferred her after I logged a complaint with the post master. Took me almost 20 minutes (10 of which I was trying to be nice and personable,,the remaining 10, not so much) to get this individual to understand that a bullet is not LOADED ammunition!!! Told her the exact same thing my son told the other woman (if it indeed was another woman). The only way this package would be dangerous was if you dropped it on your damn toe!

Are people really that uneducated about firearms that they don't know the difference?? I know caseless ammunition has been tried for years but because of some serious issues with several parts of the designs it just hasn't took off yet...Still, are people just that blindly uneducated?

Gm54-120 03-03-2017 06:59 PM

They have never asked me what is in the package other than very generic questions. Why in the world would you tell them anything more?

Semisane 03-03-2017 07:22 PM

I agree. They have no right to know what's in the package and I never tell them.

In fact, except when I ship 22 lbs. of lead in a small flat rate package (:D) no one at my post office has ever asked. And even then it was just out of friendly curiosity - not a "business" question.

super_hunt54 03-03-2017 08:09 PM

As I did with Clem, the boxes of bullets I have don't fit the shipping boxes so I had to take the bullets out of the Hornady boxes and put them in the shipping box...She saw me doing it and started having a conniption fit! Cheaper to send them flat rate in those boxes than weighed. 100 180gr bullets aint light.

Semisane 03-03-2017 08:42 PM

Oh, I see. When Nosy Nancy spotted those bullets and started raising a ruckus you should have thrown one at her to show her they don't explode. :s2:

super_hunt54 03-03-2017 09:25 PM

I sure thought about it!! But I still got a pretty good throwing arm...Mighta actually done some damage!

edmehlig 03-04-2017 03:14 AM


Originally Posted by Semisane (Post 4296201)
I agree. They have no right to know what's in the package and I never tell them.

In fact, except when I ship 22 lbs. of lead in a small flat rate package (:D) no one at my post office has ever asked. And even then it was just out of friendly curiosity - not a "business" question.

I miss those packages! 😀

muzzlestuffer 03-04-2017 03:51 AM

I sent a muzzleloader one time and made the mistake of telling them and the post master wouldn't let me send it because it shoots "bullets" so I told him I'd give him 500 dollars on the spot if he could figure out how to shoot it ! Now I don't tell them it's just a box of machine parts. BTW it's legal to send a muzzleloader thru the usps but the liberals working there can override that if they choose to.

muzzlestuffer 03-04-2017 03:54 AM


Originally Posted by super_hunt54 (Post 4296196)
So, A good while back I had my son send Clem (Bronko) some old shockwaves I had laying around that I wouldn't use. He had some difficulties at the desk with the lady trying to say "you can't send ammunition in the mail"! After going around and around with this retard for a bit he asked to speak with the supervisor. "Sir I AM the supervisor and I am telling you you can not send that through the mail"...It took the poor boy 15 or so minutes to get this complete moron to understand that a bullet is not LOADED ammunition.

Forward to today...Another buddy of mine was in a clench and couldn't find his favorite bullet ANYWHERE online or at a brick and mortar. Had a couple hundred in the bin so I told him I'd send him 100 till he could find some. I think I ran into the exact same MORON at the PO down here!!! Maybe they transferred her after I logged a complaint with the post master. Took me almost 20 minutes (10 of which I was trying to be nice and personable,,the remaining 10, not so much) to get this individual to understand that a bullet is not LOADED ammunition!!! Told her the exact same thing my son told the other woman (if it indeed was another woman). The only way this package would be dangerous was if you dropped it on your damn toe!

Are people really that uneducated about firearms that they don't know the difference?? I know caseless ammunition has been tried for years but because of some serious issues with several parts of the designs it just hasn't took off yet...Still, are people just that blindly uneducated?

Yes they are uneducated that's the same problem with some of our dumb politicians total ignorance and they claim to be highly educated at those fancy expensive schools !

Semisane 03-04-2017 05:40 AM


Originally Posted by edmehlig (Post 4296233)
I miss those packages! 😀

I may be able to remedy that soon. It's getting to be about time for my friendly roofer to be sending me a "get the lead out" text. He does that when his bin of old roof jacks gets full.

bronko22000 03-04-2017 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by Semisane (Post 4296243)
I may be able to remedy that soon. It's getting to be about time for my friendly roofer to be sending me a "get the lead out" text. He does that when his bin of old roof jacks gets full.

I miss them too. And now with the new addition to the arsenal I have more to cast.
At the PO I usually only get asked if there is anything dangerous in the package (hazardous, flamable, perishable etc)
As for your idiot Lynn I think it is a case of today's slang terminology. Most people today use the word bullet to refer to the cartridge/ammunition rather than the projectile.

cayugad 03-04-2017 08:12 AM

The post office lady asked me the last time I was in there shipping a rifle, "What is in the box?" I told her its a metal pipe that fits into a wooden jig. And that's how it hangs there. She smiled and told me .... $15.25

I never tell them anymore when I ship a rifle. It just creates too many questions and arguments. I too went around with the "postmistress" (as I called her) about shipping a muzzleloader. I even offered to down load the law proving its legal, print it out, and bring it to her for her future reference. Well she still refused and so I had to take it over to UPS. And when I complained to the United States Postal Service ... they didn't do a thing.

toytruck 03-04-2017 12:28 PM

I had the same problem with the local UPS Store then I started shipping UPS through the local Ace Hardware Store until they got a new female person to ship items. I gave up on shipping with UPS.

I also had the same problem with the local USPS until the manager actually looked up the law and shipped out the muzzleloader.

I picked up a GM .45 barrel today shipped to me from Indiana (insured) USPS and had to sign, show ID, and give my address before I could take it home.

Don't get me started on illegals voting without an ID!!!

super_hunt54 03-04-2017 01:21 PM

I can see the idiots furring up about a rifle. Even a ML to the uninitiated will just be "a gun" to them. But bullets?

And toy, it was more likely that you having to go through all that ID stuff was because the package was insured more than it was likely because of anything else. I have to go through that mess with anything insured that I pick up at a UPS store.

Gm54-120 03-05-2017 08:47 AM

You can order the USPS flat rate boxes online. They will send them to your home for free. Box stuff up at home and dont tell them squat at the PO.

https://store.usps.com/store/browse/...-rate-shipping

TNHagies 03-07-2017 04:40 AM


Originally Posted by cayugad (Post 4296256)
The post office lady asked me the last time I was in there shipping a rifle, "What is in the box?" I told her its a metal pipe that fits into a wooden jig. .

Dave, I've seen you post this before and a year or so ago I had someone ask me the same question and I used your response. I'm sure it went right over their head. But it worked beautifully.

I never volunteer to ever tell someone what is in the box but I'm not going to lie if they ask. This gets me out of that tight spot

The really sad thing is that our politicians which make the laws, know about as much as your experiences with the post office. I work and live in a city now and it's just painful if any conversation comes up about guns.

Grouse45 03-07-2017 05:53 AM

Not sure why you would mention what your shipping anyway?? Its not there business in my opinion.

JW 03-07-2017 06:11 AM

Boy this small box is rather heavy...what's in the box?
Sinkers. Used for game fishing.

OK

:)

Gm54-120 03-07-2017 07:24 AM

When i ship USPS there are just a couple questions on a keypad. Things like explosives and flammables ect. Sometimes they just ask those questions.

I don't tell them anything else. At the most i say metal part samples and there is nothing on the prohibited item list.

JW 03-07-2017 07:54 AM

Shipping small boxes I use the automated USPS system.
Asks you questions on a screen.
I'm never ever shipping anything illegal and never will.
But the automated system takes the interactive human decision out.
Paste on the self stick mailing label. Pay for your purchase with CC. And in the mail slot the box goes.
Only downfall is box size. Don't think a broken down muzzle loader would fit in the drop box.
So think about trying the 24 hr automated shipping/ mailing kiosk at your USE office.

AZBombero 03-08-2017 01:56 AM

TSA is much the same. Follow their policy for flying with a rifle and you'll see. Check them in at baggage, walk them over for inspection, close it up and put TSA lock on it. Pick them up at baggage and locks gone. Next trip, locks there. And this is coming from Alaska on Alaska Air who see A LOT of guns you'd think. My bother had EXACLY same experience using his own locks. Airline blames it on TSA.

kayak 03-08-2017 06:13 AM

I didn't think you were suppose to use TSA locks on firearms cases?

edmehlig 03-08-2017 11:25 AM

Same thing happened to me on my trip to South Africa. Every time I went through TSA I lost a lock. Wound up buy another set at the Airport and now still don't have a complete set. ☹️


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