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MountainDevil54 11-18-2016 03:54 PM

A new Thor?
 
Not sure who's making them for Thor or when they'll be available, but these are experimental as far as I know.

They are .451" diameter and wait for it..... wait for it.....

Aluminum and weight in at 63 grains and with a max load " assuming its blackhorn209" will hit in the 2900-3000 FPS range.

I was told they are for the fast twist 1:28 rifles, but I'll certainly be trying them out when I get a chance and see what they'll do in a 1:48 twist.

If they do half way decent at 100 yards in my sidelock, I'll think about trying one out on a hog.


BarnesAddict 11-18-2016 04:07 PM

Bullet weight......... 63 grains???

super_hunt54 11-18-2016 04:11 PM

Eh, I personally think those would pretty much have horrible terminal ballistics. Aluminium fractures rather than being malleable so "blow ups" rather than penetration would be way to common. Especially from such a light bullet. I'd have to see some serious penetration tests with harder contact than ballistic gel before I'd put any faith in that bullet. Also, with such a light bullet, downrange performance would be near nil since it would have little to no momentum even with those high predicted muzzle velocities.

BarnesAddict 11-18-2016 04:16 PM

At 100yds and zeroed, it would have approximately 800fpe. Woodchuck bullet?

super_hunt54 11-18-2016 05:20 PM

Maybe yote bullets! I certainly wouldn't trust it for deer or any larger hogs. Maybe a 60 pounder for the grill :D But as I stated earlier, just going by weight/size as well as material, I just don't see penetration values being anything I could trust. Maybe a flat shooting paper puncher for 100 yards but given the size of .451 and very light weight, the wind would play some serious havoc with that bullet.

1874sharpsshooter 11-18-2016 06:11 PM

Maybe there finally will be a bullet worse than a powerbelt aerolite, or maybe the 63 gr is a typo:)

MountainDevil54 11-18-2016 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by BarnesAddict (Post 4281891)
approximately 800fpe.

More than double of a .490" round ball.

super_hunt54 11-18-2016 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by MountainDevil54 (Post 4281912)
More than double of a .490" round ball.

The calculations given on roundball are faulty as you well know MD. Because of the horrible BC of a roundball the calculations to factor energy are highly skewed without taking the momentum into a greater factor. Now I'm talking about pure lead .490 PRB's which are what, 3 times the mass of that 63gr Aluminium? Right around 177gr on average?

Gm54-120 11-18-2016 08:45 PM

Nothing that new really. Lehigh has offered them for years for defense use.
https://www.lehighbullets.com/product/458-300-458-cqb/

Bullet Weight
97 grains
Bullet Length
1.100
Bullet Diameter
0.458"
Material 7075-T6 aluminum

Johnmorris 11-20-2016 02:03 PM

No hunting for me this year dave knee revision on monday layed up for at least a month

MountainDevil54 11-28-2016 01:50 PM

Froze my fingers off but I was able to shoot 3 of them at 50 yards in my traditions hawken woodsman flintlock with 90gr 2fg olde eynsford and that puny 63gr bullet. Felt like a .22 but with a whole lot of nads behind it LOL.

Under 3/4" at 50 yards, so thats perfect. They are shooting 3" high, same with round balls, but most likely way to high to hit a target at 100 yards.

If I get a day with no wind, I just might zero in that flintlock with these and have some fun and see how they do.

Grouse45 11-28-2016 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by Gm54-120 (Post 4281918)
Nothing that new really. Lehigh has offered them for years for defense use.
https://www.lehighbullets.com/product/458-300-458-cqb/

Bullet Weight
97 grains
Bullet Length
1.100
Bullet Diameter
0.458"
Material 7075-T6 aluminum


I have those, I need to try them out.

bronko22000 11-28-2016 07:46 PM

I can't see shooting such a light bullet. Especially for deer.

MountainDevil54 11-28-2016 07:50 PM

they shoot hogs on the hunting shows all day long with 22 and 9mm AIR guns. Shot Placement as always.

bronko22000 11-28-2016 08:43 PM

Yeah I guess but that's my personal opinion. It just seems that that light a bullet, at that diameter will not have sufficient penetration. I'd really have to see some actual testing before I would consider using one.


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