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Wolf428 10-24-2016 05:34 AM

Powder types?
 
I recently acquired a CVA Express double barrel side by side .50 cal percussion muzzle loader. It has been many years since i hunted with a front stuffer. Will this gun handle the newer powders? In percussions have you guys had better luck with 777 or pyrodex? Also, i would like to possibly switch to a different nipple style, should i go go with musket siza?

Semisane 10-24-2016 06:44 AM

That gun will handle black powder and any of the black powder substitutes - except Blackhorn209 - with no problem.

There's little to be gained by switching to musket nipples. Musket caps are a bit easier to handle but more difficult to find on the shelf. Few stores carry them.

Whether you go with Pyrodex RS or Triple 7 is pretty much of a toss up. Both are good powders. Personally, I prefer Pyrodex. It seems to be more forgiving in my view.

I don't know the rate of twist on those guns, so can't make any suggestion with respect to good loads. I've seen claims that they are 1:32, 1:48 and 1:60. I suggest you start out by determining the actual twist rate of your barrels, and work from there.

Wolf428 10-24-2016 07:27 AM

I believe its 1:48 twist. I've had success with PowerBelt bullets in the past so I was going to start there.

Wolf428 10-24-2016 07:30 AM

As far as caps go i'd just like something that throws more fire down the hole. If i had my way id use 209's line my inline did.

bronko22000 10-24-2016 12:25 PM

Wolf #11 caps will reliable ignite black powder, pyrodex or Triple 7 without any problem. As I recall that is a pretty hefty rifle. Who's going to be your gun bearer?

Wolf428 10-24-2016 12:37 PM

Yeah, its right around 9 lbs of rifle. That's ok, my regular meat getter is a 1917 P14, its right around 9 lbs as well.

super_hunt54 10-24-2016 03:10 PM

9 pounds heavy? Sounds like you need to eat you some more taters Bronko :D That's a lightweight :D

WV Hunter 10-24-2016 03:49 PM

In a percussion rifle, personally I'd use RWS #11 caps (they are the hottest) and either Real Black or Pyrodex.
9lb aint too bad, heck many ML's weight that much or more. Good luck with your new toy!

bronko22000 10-24-2016 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by super_hunt54 (Post 4278126)
9 pounds heavy? Sounds like you need to eat you some more taters Bronko :D That's a lightweight :D

I had that rifle confused with a Pedersoli .72 cal double rifle. That thing I would guess was pushing about 11 lbs.
And no I don't need more taters. I have my belly just the right size now so I can rest my elbow on it for steady off hand shots! :happy0001:.

super_hunt54 10-24-2016 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by bronko22000 (Post 4278185)
I had that rifle confused with a Pedersoli .72 cal double rifle. That thing I would guess was pushing about 11 lbs.
And no I don't need more taters. I have my belly just the right size now so I can rest my elbow on it for steady off hand shots! :happy0001:.

HA! I gotta remember that one! Yet another reason I can tell mammy to shup when she is crackin on me to do me sit-ups! 70 dang years old and she still busts on me to have a firm gut! I keep tellin her I've EARNED a damn gut woman! :nonono2: Dang wimmin, caint live witum, caint shootum ( legally )


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