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MountainDevil54 02-02-2016 07:38 PM

A baby Thor Bullet - Reduced Recoil
 
Looks like Thor is getting some of the new Barnes in stock and this time they are in sabots. Not 100% sure which sabot they are but plan on getting that info.

The bullets when bought from Thor when available, he said will come with the ballistic tip.

Interestingly enough, they have a 160gr Control Fracturing bullet, a 160gr Non CF bullet, and a larger 180gr Non CF bullet.

Thor said these are for the 1:48 guns, but I plan on trying them in the 1:28 twist rifles as well to see how they do with lighter charges for young shooters that already have an inline.





From left to right:

160gr CF, Non CF 160gr, Non CF 180gr




Semisane 02-02-2016 07:53 PM

Caliber? .45 or .50?

MountainDevil54 02-02-2016 09:19 PM

The bullet itself is .445" diameter. That to me sounds odd, so I am not sure if its the cheap caliper I am using. My good one is out in the shop.

OAL on the 160gr CF is .727"

Provided sabot appears to be an MMP brand as they have to hand engraved number in the base of the sabot.

They load nice and snug in my CVA Wolf, so the 180's will get the first run to see how they handle in a 1:28 twist barrel.

lemoyne 02-03-2016 05:50 AM

Could you give me the length of the 180 gr. and the thickness of the petals on the sabot that fits right? Too bad they are not .400.

Gm54-120 02-03-2016 08:11 AM

Wild guess

They used the MMP short black which has a large loaded OD with a .451-.452 bullet. Roughly around .508+

Using the .445 bullet loaded OD is much smaller (obviously) but it still fits the short sabot very well. The bullet may set too deeply in a longer sabot and catch the jag on loading.

Muley Hunter 02-03-2016 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by Gm54-120 (Post 4243256)
catch the jag on loading.

One advantage of the loading Spinjag. It's designed to not catch the sabot.

bronko22000 02-03-2016 08:23 AM

That 180 gr bullet IMO is perfect for deer sized game. It should perform well. It seems that my rifles prefer the heavier bullets but I can't wait to see the results out of the 1:28 barrel.

Gm54-120 02-03-2016 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by bronko22000 (Post 4243259)
That 180 gr bullet IMO is perfect for deer sized game. It should perform well. It seems that my rifles prefer the heavier bullets but I can't wait to see the results out of the 1:28 barrel.

Copper Only Projectiles aka General Bullet has been making 185gr and 160gr .451s for some time now. Pretty cheap too, around 45 cents a bullet or less at MidwayUSA.
http://shop.generalbullet.com/Handgu...ponents_c3.htm


I think Barnes even sells a 185gr and 160gr .451 for 45ACP/GAP.

No need to wait for some special run from Thor if you want to try some.

MountainDevil54 02-03-2016 08:40 AM

180gr is .447" diameter and with sabot they are in the .504-.508 diameter range.

OAL - .732"

Gm54-120 02-03-2016 08:52 AM

Yep, sure sounds like a MMP Short black sabot.

Assemble your own with the cheap COP bullet and the MMP sabot. Ive shot a bunch of those sabots with the Barnes 45LC 225gr XPB in the NULA. They handle high pressures very well.

Interesting reviews on MidwayUSA on the COP 185gr and 160gr .451 bullets


Mic'ed 20 random ones (10 from each bag I got) and all were between .445 and .447 diameter, NOT .451

A little undersized @ 0.447, but expansion in ballistic gel was avg 0.723, would recommend.
Hmmm, could they actually be a COP bullet?


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