A baby Thor Bullet - Reduced Recoil
02-02-2016, 06:38 PM
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A baby Thor Bullet - Reduced Recoil
Looks like Thor is getting some of the new Barnes in stock and this time they are in sabots. Not 100% sure which sabot they are but plan on getting that info.
The bullets when bought from Thor when available, he said will come with the ballistic tip.
Interestingly enough, they have a 160gr Control Fracturing bullet, a 160gr Non CF bullet, and a larger 180gr Non CF bullet.
Thor said these are for the 1:48 guns, but I plan on trying them in the 1:28 twist rifles as well to see how they do with lighter charges for young shooters that already have an inline.
From left to right:
160gr CF, Non CF 160gr, Non CF 180gr
The bullets when bought from Thor when available, he said will come with the ballistic tip.
Interestingly enough, they have a 160gr Control Fracturing bullet, a 160gr Non CF bullet, and a larger 180gr Non CF bullet.
Thor said these are for the 1:48 guns, but I plan on trying them in the 1:28 twist rifles as well to see how they do with lighter charges for young shooters that already have an inline.
From left to right:
160gr CF, Non CF 160gr, Non CF 180gr
02-02-2016, 08:19 PM
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The bullet itself is .445" diameter. That to me sounds odd, so I am not sure if its the cheap caliper I am using. My good one is out in the shop.
OAL on the 160gr CF is .727"
Provided sabot appears to be an MMP brand as they have to hand engraved number in the base of the sabot.
They load nice and snug in my CVA Wolf, so the 180's will get the first run to see how they handle in a 1:28 twist barrel.
OAL on the 160gr CF is .727"
Provided sabot appears to be an MMP brand as they have to hand engraved number in the base of the sabot.
They load nice and snug in my CVA Wolf, so the 180's will get the first run to see how they handle in a 1:28 twist barrel.
02-03-2016, 07:11 AM
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Wild guess
They used the MMP short black which has a large loaded OD with a .451-.452 bullet. Roughly around .508+
Using the .445 bullet loaded OD is much smaller (obviously) but it still fits the short sabot very well. The bullet may set too deeply in a longer sabot and catch the jag on loading.
They used the MMP short black which has a large loaded OD with a .451-.452 bullet. Roughly around .508+
Using the .445 bullet loaded OD is much smaller (obviously) but it still fits the short sabot very well. The bullet may set too deeply in a longer sabot and catch the jag on loading.
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02-03-2016, 07:40 AM
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http://shop.generalbullet.com/Handgu...ponents_c3.htm
I think Barnes even sells a 185gr and 160gr .451 for 45ACP/GAP.
No need to wait for some special run from Thor if you want to try some.
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02-03-2016, 07:52 AM
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Yep, sure sounds like a MMP Short black sabot.
Assemble your own with the cheap COP bullet and the MMP sabot. Ive shot a bunch of those sabots with the Barnes 45LC 225gr XPB in the NULA. They handle high pressures very well.
Interesting reviews on MidwayUSA on the COP 185gr and 160gr .451 bullets
Hmmm, could they actually be a COP bullet?
Assemble your own with the cheap COP bullet and the MMP sabot. Ive shot a bunch of those sabots with the Barnes 45LC 225gr XPB in the NULA. They handle high pressures very well.
Interesting reviews on MidwayUSA on the COP 185gr and 160gr .451 bullets
Mic'ed 20 random ones (10 from each bag I got) and all were between .445 and .447 diameter, NOT .451
A little undersized @ 0.447, but expansion in ballistic gel was avg 0.723, would recommend.
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