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Old 01-25-2016, 05:25 AM
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I didn't recommend BH 209, because I wasn't sure the CVA Kodiak would shoot it reliably. I checked and it seems it will with a good primer like the Federal 209a. Don't use the muzzleloader primers.

So, i'll change to recommending it over T7.
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Old 01-25-2016, 06:06 AM
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i use bh209 with really good results. One thing you have to remember with blackpowder guns is you have to be very consistent. When im testing loads i always swab the barrel with a seasoning patch after every shot...i have a place marked on my ramrod so i know im pushing the bullet down to the same spot every time, etc. Any kind of deviation in your shot process is going to lead to different poi.
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Old 01-25-2016, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Muley Hunter
Why not try the load you were using, but in powder?
Because a 50 grain pellet is more like 40 - 45 gr of loose. If I were you I would start with 80 gr and work up to 110. IMO any more is a waste of powder.
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Old 01-25-2016, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by bronko22000
Because a 50 grain pellet is more like 40 - 45 gr of loose. If I were you I would start with 80 gr and work up to 110. IMO any more is a waste of powder.

We're going to keep butting heads if you keep doing this. I suggested he start with 90-100gr and experiment to find the best load.

Then I changed to BH after I checked to see if his gun is ok to shoot it.
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Old 01-25-2016, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by lemoyne
I have tried everything I could get my hands on over the last 55 years, My conclusions are real simple.
The best powder for side locks is Pyrodex.
You shoot replica powder in your flintlock? Think I'll stick with Swiss or Goex.
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Old 01-25-2016, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Muley Hunter
We're going to keep butting heads if you keep doing this. I suggested he start with 90-100gr and experiment to find the best load.

Then I changed to BH after I checked to see if his gun is ok to shoot it.
I ain't buttin heads. I don't know why you're always looking for an argument. What I said was true. A 50 gr pellet isn't a 50 grs of loose powder. A lot on people aren't aware of this fact. And there are a good many MLs that shoot 80 gr of BP with superb accuracy.
I didn't read your post on BH209 until today. And there are some that don't like BH209. But what Lemoyne said to try will likely give the pellets a poor showing. The pellets will likely absorb moisture and change the burning characteristics. The BH209 is non-hydroscopic so moisture will not affect it.
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Old 01-25-2016, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bronko22000
I ain't buttin heads. I don't know why you're always looking for an argument. What I said was true. A 50 gr pellet isn't a 50 grs of loose powder. A lot on people aren't aware of this fact. And there are a good many MLs that shoot 80 gr of BP with superb accuracy.
I didn't read your post on BH209 until today. And there are some that don't like BH209. But what Lemoyne said to try will likely give the pellets a poor showing. The pellets will likely absorb moisture and change the burning characteristics. The BH209 is non-hydroscopic so moisture will not affect it.
I know about the pellets. That's why I said to start with 90-100gr and work up a load. It could be more or less. Post#4.


You quoted me disagreeing with me. How is it i'm looking for an argument?
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Old 01-25-2016, 03:20 PM
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I wasn't disagreeing with you. Good grief. I quoted you because I didn't feel like typing the same thing. I was trying to tell the originator that using the same load in loose as he did with pellet would achieve different results because a 50 grain pellet is not the same as 50 gr of loose but more like 40-45 gr.
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Old 01-25-2016, 04:50 PM
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Yes, but it would be a starting point. That was all I was trying to say. I suggested 90-100gr, because I think that's about where he'll end up.
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Old 01-25-2016, 05:34 PM
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Out of my 45 cal Kodiak shooting sabotless, I use BH 209, 100 gr for 250 bullet, and 105 gr for a 300 gr bullet, is where I get my best groups, 1 inch or less either bullet at 100 yards, and 2 1/4 inch or less at 200 yards.
But this is with my gun, it is what it likes.
You would need to find out what yours will like, might be 80 gr or it might be 110 gr, your gun will let you know what it likes.
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