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Grouse45 01-14-2016 04:06 PM

Lehigh Defense shot show announcement!!!
 
The Range Rods are back and will be displayed at the shot show. Stay tuned for more details coming!!

sabotloader 01-14-2016 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by Grouse45 (Post 4239613)
The Range Rods are back and will be displayed at the shot show. Stay tuned for more details coming!!

I really want to see the new rods - I am wondering if there any small changes or if it is the same one... And you really can not complain about the old one - it is a great rod!!!

Grouse45 01-14-2016 06:20 PM

I never thought to ask, I was happy with the old one. Plus better things to talk about for the future.;)

Gm54-120 01-15-2016 11:00 AM

I love mine, I never go to the range without it.

pooldoc 01-15-2016 02:52 PM

Thanks for the update. I sure need another one.

1874sharpsshooter 01-17-2016 07:28 PM

I hear Knight is not going to the Shot Show. Anybody know if that is true?

super_hunt54 01-17-2016 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by 1874sharpsshooter (Post 4240344)
I hear Knight is not going to the Shot Show. Anybody know if that is true?

I just checked the exhibitors section and Knight Rifles aint on it. Knights Armament was (not the same company) and that's the only "Knight" in the list https://n2a.goexposoftware.com/event...wFloorPlan.php

Grouse45 01-18-2016 05:23 AM


Originally Posted by 1874sharpsshooter (Post 4240344)
I hear Knight is not going to the Shot Show. Anybody know if that is true?

As far as I know, they got nothing new to show???

WV Hunter 01-18-2016 06:16 AM

Yeah, you probably look worse being there with nothing new, than not going.

I remember a few years ago they had a new rifle at the show (KPX? I think) and it never came to market. I personally think they need to update/upgrade their break action line. I know that the under $250 market isn't their market...but imo they should at least have something competitive in that space to get customers using and liking the Knight brand. They can always upgrade to an Ultra-Lite :D

chaded 01-18-2016 06:31 AM

Yeah the new kpx never came out and I haven't seen the knight 500 come out that they had introduced last year either.

GoexBlackhorn 01-18-2016 06:35 AM

WV Hunter is right. Knight needs to upgrade their break/fall-action collection.

Look what CVA is going after in 2016 creation technology. They are loaded in the fall/break-action category and are going after creating a new lineup of bolt-action ML development in 2016/2017. They are going after Knight, so it's high-time Knight fights back.

Whomever is running CVA in that past handful of years, are a bunch of smart people, knowing what it takes to stay on-top. Look what they've done with the Powerbelt division. An overall subpar bullet that sits on every retail store shelf in America...... and at a ridiculous price...... and still sells-out every year.

Grouse45 01-18-2016 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by chaded (Post 4240388)
Yeah the new kpx never came out and I haven't seen the knight 500 come out that they had introduced last year either.

I had the KPX 45 in a 1/20 twist for a month or so. Im glad it didn't come out myself.

WV Hunter 01-18-2016 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by Grouse45 (Post 4240392)
I had the KPX 45 in a 1/20 twist for a month or so. Im glad it didn't come out myself.

Not based on if it was good or bad, but my thought is why bring it to SHOT show and then never take it to market? I know they want to continue to innovate and be upper end, and don't want to compete with CVA (and TC)... but (to me) it just makes sense to. Maybe I'm wrong.

BarnesAddict 01-18-2016 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by WV Hunter (Post 4240397)
Not based on if it was good or bad, but my thought is why bring it to SHOT show and then never take it to market? I know they want to continue to innovate and be upper end, and don't want to compete with CVA (and TC)... but (to me) it just makes sense to. Maybe I'm wrong.

If one owns a smaller company, trying to compete with larger companies in most cases is a loosing battle. Build a top quality and accurate product, provide customer service timely and they'll sell rifles.
Mass produced rifles at a lower cost does appeal to a higher percentage of purchasers. Others may be more willing to spend more money for a higher quality rifle, which is where the smaller company may succeed.

WV Hunter 01-18-2016 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by BarnesAddict (Post 4240399)
If one owns a smaller company, trying to compete with larger companies in most cases is a loosing battle. Build a top quality and accurate product, provide customer service timely and they'll sell rifles.
Mass produced rifles at a lower cost does appeal to a higher percentage of purchasers. Others may be more willing to spend more money for a higher quality rifle, which is where the smaller company may succeed.

I understand and agree with you on that. BUT.. I think they need to rework their break action line to be more competitive... even if it costs more than a CVA (which I would expect) at least they would have a competitive product design wise. I know they aren't going to go down to the $250-$300 price range... that's not their market.

BarnesAddict 01-18-2016 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by WV Hunter (Post 4240404)
I understand and agree with you on that. BUT.. I think they need to rework their break action line to be more competitive... even if it costs more than a CVA (which I would expect) at least they would have a competitive product design wise. I know they aren't going to go down to the $250-$300 price range... that's not their market.

Once you graduate to a quality bolt action, you forget about break open rifles ;)

Grouse45 01-18-2016 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by WV Hunter (Post 4240404)
I understand and agree with you on that. BUT.. I think they need to rework their break action line to be more competitive... even if it costs more than a CVA (which I would expect) at least they would have a competitive product design wise. I know they aren't going to go down to the $250-$300 price range... that's not their market.

I don't think Knight has anyone to try and make a better product internally. I'm sure they are trying to find someone if not already. I don't blame them for not going to shot show myself.

1874sharpsshooter 01-18-2016 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by Grouse45 (Post 4240413)
I don't think Knight has anyone to try and make a better product internally. I'm sure they are trying to find someone if not already. I don't blame them for not going to shot show myself.

I agree they dont need to be at the Shot show . They need to be looking for someone to buy Knight that will do justice to the Brand Name . Knight customers definitely deserve better .

Gm54-120 01-18-2016 10:08 AM

History tells us that at one time Knight came out with a couple "entry level rifles" such as the Shadow. Some believe this is what lead to their downfall at that time.

A good remake of the Shadow might have been popular with the entry level and seasonal hunting crowd.

IMO a neat idea would be to offer the Vision in a shotgun. It already looks like one. :D


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