Looking at breech plugs!!
01-13-2016, 01:05 PM
#31
Nontypical Buck
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Ignore my previous posts, just found it. The old guy isn't getting senile after all. Heres the article. http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/...-muzzleloaders
01-13-2016, 01:07 PM
#32
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Mar 2010
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This is somewhat misleading about the Optima V2 SS with a scope. The Wolf is around $300 scoped. The Optima V2 as pictured is around $390.
The Traditions G4 is also around $380-$395 as pictured. MSRP is $464
Not much of a complaint until you look at the price on the Impact and Vision. If you are going to use MSRP at least be consistent across the board. The Optima V2 SS without a scope has a MSRP of nearly $370. MSRP of a Optima V2 blued with a scope is around $419 and $480 in SS with the Konus scope.
“What more could you want for only $300, with a scope?”
Not much of a complaint until you look at the price on the Impact and Vision. If you are going to use MSRP at least be consistent across the board. The Optima V2 SS without a scope has a MSRP of nearly $370. MSRP of a Optima V2 blued with a scope is around $419 and $480 in SS with the Konus scope.
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01-13-2016, 01:15 PM
#33
Nontypical Buck
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This is somewhat misleading about the Optima V2 SS with a scope. The Wolf is around $300 scoped. The Optima V2 as pictured is around $390.
The Traditions G4 is also around $380-$395 as pictured.
Not much of a complaint until you look at the price on the Impact and Vision. If you are going to use MSRP at least be consistent across the board.
The Traditions G4 is also around $380-$395 as pictured.
Not much of a complaint until you look at the price on the Impact and Vision. If you are going to use MSRP at least be consistent across the board.
The T/C Impact review doesn't seem close at all. The impact is pretty simple in all ways. Will see after this weekend.
As far as CVA and traditions, you cant argue. Cheap and a value, but not very good of a review to me.
01-13-2016, 01:28 PM
#34
Giant Nontypical
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I don't really mind the review. What i do mind is how they imply they are so much cheaper by using MSRP for one brand but not for another. This is not the first time ive seen F&S use this tactic in reviews.
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01-13-2016, 02:25 PM
#35
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Colorado
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There review of the vision wasn't bad. The trigger does suck, and it has creep. Its an easy fix but bad out of the box.
The T/C Impact review doesn't seem close at all. The impact is pretty simple in all ways. Will see after this weekend.
As far as CVA and traditions, you cant argue. Cheap and a value, but not very good of a review to me.
The T/C Impact review doesn't seem close at all. The impact is pretty simple in all ways. Will see after this weekend.
As far as CVA and traditions, you cant argue. Cheap and a value, but not very good of a review to me.
01-13-2016, 02:49 PM
#37
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Idaho
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wonder if this has any bearing on anything in this topic..
I drive Fords - certainly not cheapest vehicle on the market but, not near as expensive as a Cadillac or Lincoln!
Why is it the Ford is less expensive?
I drive Fords - certainly not cheapest vehicle on the market but, not near as expensive as a Cadillac or Lincoln!
Why is it the Ford is less expensive?
01-13-2016, 02:56 PM
#38
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Illinois
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Translate that to MLers and you have the finer details trimmed down to just the basics and not a whole hell of a lot geared toward fineness. You end up with functional, low cost MLers that of course could be improved on in probably every way but then they would cost more. Plain and simple economics.
01-13-2016, 03:01 PM
#39
Boone & Crockett
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As soon as I saw this thread I knew the test was going to be bias anyway. I looked at the Impact before I got my CVA and to me there was no contest. The CVA felt better and looked better IMO. And I can't complain about the accuracy nor the trigger.
01-13-2016, 03:07 PM
#40
Fork Horn
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Southeast Michigan
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My most accurate ML at 100 yards was a CVA. I paid 39.95 for it brand new at a Bass Pro closeout. Sold it to a buddy for $45 about seven years later.
The only ML manufacturer I'd abstain from purchasing again is Traditions. Too many hang/misfires and very poor warranty coverage with them.
The only ML manufacturer I'd abstain from purchasing again is Traditions. Too many hang/misfires and very poor warranty coverage with them.