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Old 01-08-2016, 04:15 PM
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How are you going to measure barrel strength?
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Old 01-08-2016, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Muley Hunter
How are you going to measure barrel strength?
I'm not, I'll get that right from the manufactures.
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Old 01-09-2016, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Grouse45
I'm not, I'll get that right from the manufactures.
I'm sure you know some manufacturers are pretty generous with their stated barrel lengths, some not counting any QLA, some measuring past the breech area. Usable barrel length can be pretty subjective but I would consider it from forward of the breech plug to the muzzle, then subtracting any QLA.

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Old 01-09-2016, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Muley Hunter
How are you going to measure barrel strength?
Hopefully he doesn't - not from squeezing the trigger anyways.

I have the opinion that if I don't like a certain manufacturer for what ever reasons (hello Traditions), then I just avoid them in nearby stores and views in online stores like Buds, like the Bubonic Plague.

None of us should be conducting strength tests on ML manufacturers. Even Wakeman didn't do that.
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Old 01-09-2016, 07:52 AM
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I didn't expect him to, but it was on his list to compare.
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Old 01-09-2016, 08:15 AM
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I was told by someone who toured the factories that there was no sign of any inspectors or of a quality control in the CVA factory they visited. When ask about it they were told each piece worker inspected what they did. Any body that has worked in quality control knows what to think about that.
Any good machine shop should have a Rockwell or Brinell
BHN=2F pi D [D={D squared -d squared}
BHN = Brinell Hardness Number (N/mm2)
F = applied force (Newton or N)
D = diameter of indenter (mm)
d = diameter of indentation (mm)
There are charts for different alloys such as stainless.
Also should magnaflux and use sonar to check for laminations and such other defects.
Back in the 80's I believe the was a major problem with defective steel in CVA barrels if I remember correctly the co. changed hands after that.
I was on the firing line shooting competition when one of their barrels split I have never considered buying one since.
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Old 01-09-2016, 09:13 AM
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That was before Bergara.

Is this going to be another CVA bashing thread, or an unbiased test?
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Old 01-09-2016, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Muley Hunter
That was before Bergara.

Is this going to be another CVA bashing thread, or an unbiased test?
Muley,
You need to relax. Supplying information to in the field/range results is not brand bashing. If Lee would of said the same thing about a T/C you would of never said a word. The plan it's to start testing next week!!
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Old 01-09-2016, 03:21 PM
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Who's not relaxed? I really don't care about any of the guns you're testing.

The CVA bashing gets old though.



"I was told by someone who toured the factories that there was no sign of any inspectors...."


Cmon!
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Old 01-09-2016, 03:38 PM
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Pete, it's common knowledge that most Spanish gun manufacturers have lax quality control for barrels intended for the US. Thats not from Randy either but just a simple statement of fact. It has become a bit better yes but they still are nowhere near as stringent as US based barrel makers when it comes to steel quality. That my friend is not brand bashing but a simple matter of fact that is easily found. I have done a ton of research over the past several months to maybe get me a .45 barrel cut for my TC and have since came across MANY articles referring to the poor quality control of barrels coming into the US from Spain. It seems Pedersoli and Uberti are top tier and the rest seem to get away with very little oversite on the barrels meant for outbound shipping.
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