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Omega218er 12-25-2015 03:48 PM

Patch issue
 
Hi all

Shot a .54 Renegade today that I had not shot before and used a PRB with .18 pillow ticking, .530 round ball and olive oil as the patch lube. Two patches look great but the rest were obliterated. I have a theory of why this is happening but want your take.


Thank you in advance!

Mark

sabotloader 12-25-2015 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by Omega218er (Post 4235757)
Hi all

Shot a .54 Renegade today that I had not shot before and used a PRB with .18 pillow ticking, .530 round ball and olive oil as the patch lube. For some reason I cannot post the pictures but two patches looked great but the rest were obliterated. I have a theory of why this is happening but want your take.

Thank you in advance!

Mark

What powder and how much were you shooting?

lemoyne 12-25-2015 04:37 PM

The first two things that come to mind are the ball size since I have had to use a .535 ball in all my Renegades, and if you were using 777 powder it is not compatible with PRB and in order to make it work you would have to use wads under the PRB.

Omega218er 12-25-2015 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by sabotloader (Post 4235761)
What powder and how much were you shooting?

Sorry, 70 grains of pyrodex.

cayugad 12-25-2015 04:46 PM

Just a guess mind you. When I shot 777 with patched ball I had to put a wad under the patch our it would destroy the patch. Accuracy was still great but the patch was blown. That's because 777 runs hotter and with more pressure. Now I am not saying that is the reason. Its just a ... what happened to me.

Also the more fouled the rifle becomes it can lead to a tighter bore, and maybe that had some effect on it. Hard to say. If the accuracy was good, I wouldn't concern myself. But if you want ... and have no wad, try taking some cotton patch, roll that up. After you dump the powder 777 then push that patch down first on the powder. See if it helps.

cayugad 12-25-2015 04:48 PM

70 grains of Pyrodex? Wow, I am surprised it did that. Pyrodex is such a forgiving powder in most cases.

Omega218er 12-25-2015 04:54 PM

I swabbed every other shot. My theory is I got the the patches too dry as I really worked to get the patches as dry as possible. My other Renegade doing the same program with had patches that looked great but I believe the patches were not as dry.

Muley Hunter 12-25-2015 05:22 PM

Why do you think you need the patches dry?

MountainDevil54 12-25-2015 05:57 PM

I never was very happy with olive oil as a patch lube. That pic is super tiny so its impossible to really help with that.

GoexBlackhorn 12-25-2015 07:45 PM

Change both your patch lube and patch material. I switched to Bumblin' Bear Grease prelubed pillow-ticking patches (.018) / 50-59 caliber.

Go to Octobercountry.com and put '''lubed daisy ticking patches''' in the search box there.
I use .018 thickness and check 50-59 caliber (for my 50-cal Shenandoah)


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