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Grouse45 12-18-2015 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by sabotloader (Post 4234110)
Well then why would you consider a flintlock that primitive. It was a tremendous improvement on the Matchlock - now that would be primative!

That's why I said primitive to me? :lmao:

I have absolutely no clue what a matchlock is and don't care to know at this point in my muzzleloading adventures.

Muley Hunter 12-18-2015 10:14 AM

I think you associate #11 caps as not primitive because some inlines use them. I'm sure the majority consider them primitive when you consider when they came out, and the guns they were on.

Grouse45 12-18-2015 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by Muley Hunter (Post 4234115)
I think you associate #11 caps as not primitive because some inlines use them. I'm sure the majority consider them primitive when you consider when they came out, and the guns they were on.

That's exactly how I view it.

sabotloader 12-18-2015 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by Grouse45 (Post 4234113)
That's why I said primitive to me? :lmao:

I have absolutely no clue what a matchlock is and don't care to know at this point in my muzzleloading adventures.

And I feel the same about caps versus flint

Grouse45 12-18-2015 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by sabotloader (Post 4234119)
And I feel the same about caps versus flint

So your telling me, a flintlock will go off more consistently then a cap? I'm being serious about this. Or just your opinion?

Muley Hunter 12-18-2015 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by Grouse45 (Post 4234117)
That's exactly how I view it.

Not really fair to say it's not primitive just because it's lasted so long.

1820 was a long time ago.

MountainDevil54 12-18-2015 10:25 AM

percussion caps were around from 1807 or 1808, very traditional.

Muley Hunter 12-18-2015 10:27 AM

Yes, but available in 1820.

As I already said. All Hawken half stocks were caplocks. I don't believe anybody will say an original Hawken isn't a primitive weapon.

Grouse45 12-18-2015 10:32 AM

Im 44 years old, and highly uneducated about Matchlocks and caps obviously. Flintlocks and Recurve bows are primitive weapons in my age era I should say.

MountainDevil54 12-18-2015 10:35 AM

they were available before then, just not in wide use or sold in large quantity.


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