I know and I agree but I have become so accustomed to that type of performance 95+% of the time - I expect it all the time - but reality struck this weed end! First time in a long long time

What I want: The bullet I shoot I want complete confidence in my ability to be accurate with it at range I am confident I am make. I want to know it will penetrate through the vital organs and even better, out the other side. But I want damage to major critical organs. I want to know that it will expand a little. After all most of them are almost 1/2 inch to begin with. So I know the hole through the body will be enough to get the job done. And I want the animals and bullets I hunt with to know that if the shot is not do-able, I will not take it.

While I consider myself an excellent tracker, I don't want to track. But if I have to, then I do it.

I wasn't thinking of you when I posted it. Don't take it personally, but I hardly ever read hunting/range reports. So, I didn't know about your hunt.

Have to agree completely and without hesitation on that. I call it building confidence.

I'm on my 4th CASE this year.

Must be nice to have the money and the time to shoot that much!

i want a gun that puts the bullet where it is pointed. i want a bullet/ball that expands reliably. Could care less if the bullet exits. Nothing beats close range shots.

My shots are picked very carefully. This afternoon i deer hunted with my .50 caliber TC New Englander. Weather was overcast and sometimes drizzly. About sunset i passed on a big doe at about 65 yards because my sight picture was not right. Would have been a slam dunk with a scoped rifle.

i have numerous types of muzzleloader bullets. Those that i have tried worked out very well except for that awful 300 grain TC PTX bullet that did not expand when driven by 150 grains of 777.

Many of those bullets will soon go away; i'm back to basics.

This outlines what I believe is best.

That about sums up my thoughts too.

Obviously some bullets are not designed to expand such as hardcast. I would consider them a monolithic of sorts. They usually perform as designed.

the bullets i use group @ 1" @100 yrds no i don't like tracking usually don't have to but if i do i usually find them with in 100 yrds & 99% of the time there drt but did have one kick for about a minute once& i expect & do receive complete pass thrus & inners are like jelly. i practice with what i hunt with & i shoot a couple hundred dollars a year on powder,bullets & targets. you don't practice with a vw @ the drag strip! makes sense to me