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Old 12-09-2015, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by toytruck
I hate to brag, really I do...but I can't help it this time. I ordered what was listed as an Accura V2 nitride/package including konus scope and cloth gun case from Amazon for $420+tax and free shipping. Got the gun yesterday, but it turned out to be a Optima V2 nitride/package, scope, and case. I called Amazon on it an turns out they never had the Accura all along, so they knocked off $110 on my new Optima V2. Merry Christmas to me!!

Gonna take her to the range tomorrow along with the Optima V2 pistol to see how she does.
aren't you ticked off about not being the right one ??
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Old 12-09-2015, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by super_hunt54
If I understand the process correctly, it's a molecular bonding not a coating. But I'm no chemist, just an old fart with half a brain
yeah it changes the surface of the metal and it's supposed to be harder than chrome ! the black ice is a coating i guess time will tell if the nitride will hold up to the bumps and bruises of hunting life i hope it does ?
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Old 12-09-2015, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Muley Hunter
CVA doesn't sell a Nitride breech plug. It's just coated black.

They don't put the Nitride on the breech plug, because the threads would be too hard for the threads in the barrel. That's what they told me.
https://www.muzzle-loaders.com/acces...eech-plug.html
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Old 12-10-2015, 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by muzzlestuffer
do you have either one ?
Yes my white thunderbolt is black iced, I love it
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Old 12-10-2015, 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by sbuff
Yes my white thunderbolt is black iced, I love it
The reason I asked is I was wondering if it is showing any wear and if so do you shoot it or hunt with it a lot ??
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Old 12-10-2015, 03:49 AM
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I have black ice on my White ML and love it. Does it wear off? Well I noticed two areas where it has. One place is the inside edge of the of the mouth of the bore. The second is in the breach area where the #11 or Musket caps sits on the breech plug. I guess the heat/flame of where the bullet comes out and the spark of the caps will burn it off. Other then that it is very durable. In a simple version on how I clean my rifles. I just wipe it down, clean and oil the bore and I'm good. I don't have to worry about the exterior of the rifle that has been blacked iced.

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Old 12-10-2015, 03:56 AM
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It's meant to use in the Nitride treated guns to match the black. It's coated, and not treated like the Nitride gun.
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Old 12-10-2015, 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by edmehlig
I have black ice on my White ML and love it. Does it wear off? Well I noticed two areas where it has. One place is the inside edge of the of the mouth of the bore. The second is in the breach area where the #11 or Musket caps sits on the breech plug. I guess the heat/flame of where the bullet comes out and the spark of the caps will burn it off. Other then that it is very durable. In a simple version on how I clean my rifles. I just wipe it down, clean and oil the bore and I'm good. I don't have to worry about the exterior of the rifle that has been blacked iced.

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That should prove that Nitride is tougher than Black Ice. Nitride is also on the inside of the bore, and tested with thousands of shots. It didn't wear off in the tests.
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Old 12-10-2015, 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by muzzlestuffer
aren't you ticked off about not being the right one ??
I was at first, but I like the Optima too, and they are very similar with the same trigger according to CVA. My Optima pistol put me over the edge in favor of the rifle as it is so accurate and after reading many posts/reviews on the Optima and the big discount I decided to keep it.
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Old 12-10-2015, 08:10 AM
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The black ice has no sign of wear anyplace on my thunderbolt.I use 209 ignition, is it possible they are not as hot as #11 or even musket caps.the action was smooth before the ice, but now it's hard to believe it's even better. The customer service and response from black ice is superb too. I have no doubt it will last a long time and mine is over a stainless steel barrel.

I have been thinking of getting my TC X7 and ruger mini 30 iced.
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