nitride metal treatment
12-09-2015, 06:09 AM
#21
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Colorado
Posts: 9,557
Since CVA sells a nitride BH 209 breech plug, I incorrectly assumed the black stock breech plug that came with the nitride rifles was also nitride treated. My bad. Have you ever tried to machine a nitride breech plug? I am curious about how much harder they actually are?
They don't put the Nitride on the breech plug, because the threads would be too hard for the threads in the barrel. That's what they told me.
12-09-2015, 07:04 AM
#22
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Virginia / West Virginia
Posts: 4,906
Beautiful rifles, looks like they did an awesome job! I really like the way they look 
I wonder if the coatings are more for us than the rifles? What I mean...they look sweet when coated, and while they obviously they add a substantial protection factor....does a quality rifle actually "need" a coating for protection? I would say that in the vast majority of cases, No. I have alot of rifles, many that are old and have been used quite a bit. I've never had one that needed to be coated to be protected....basic care and cleaning has always done just fine... Center-fire or ML.
Not a put down on the coatings at all. And for ML rifles, I can see how it may actually be a great thing - considering how many people are lazy or stupid when it comes to cleaning their guns. It might save some guns that would have been toast in a hurry. I wonder how that Nitrade coating holds up to BP fouling.
Muley, do a field test and let us know
I wonder if the coatings are more for us than the rifles? What I mean...they look sweet when coated, and while they obviously they add a substantial protection factor....does a quality rifle actually "need" a coating for protection? I would say that in the vast majority of cases, No. I have alot of rifles, many that are old and have been used quite a bit. I've never had one that needed to be coated to be protected....basic care and cleaning has always done just fine... Center-fire or ML.
Not a put down on the coatings at all. And for ML rifles, I can see how it may actually be a great thing - considering how many people are lazy or stupid when it comes to cleaning their guns. It might save some guns that would have been toast in a hurry. I wonder how that Nitrade coating holds up to BP fouling.
Muley, do a field test and let us know
12-09-2015, 07:11 AM
#23
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Colorado
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I don't have any inlines anymore. Hopefully, I can just stay with a traditional setup this time.
I agree that i'm not sure if rifles need these coatings/treatments. I've never had a problem with good old bluing/browning.
I agree that i'm not sure if rifles need these coatings/treatments. I've never had a problem with good old bluing/browning.
12-09-2015, 11:10 AM
#25
Nontypical Buck
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Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: gilbert az
Posts: 1,168
[QUOTE=WV Hunter;4232288]Beautiful rifles, looks like they did an awesome job! I really like the way they look
I wonder if the coatings are more for us than the rifles? What I mean...they look sweet when coated, and while they obviously they add a substantial protection factor....does a quality rifle actually "need" a coating for protection? I would say that in the vast majority of cases, No. I have alot of rifles, many that are old and have been used quite a bit. I've never had one that needed to be coated to be protected....basic care and cleaning has always done just fine... Center-fire or ML.
Not a put down on the coatings at all. And for ML rifles, I can see how it may actually be a great thing - considering how many people are lazy or stupid when it comes to cleaning their guns. It might save some guns that would have been toast in a hurry. I wonder how that Nitrade coating holds up to BP fouling.
Muley, do a field test and let us
Well I didn't need it on my .504 because I owned that rifle since new so it was in perfect condition I did that just for the looks but the .410 I got from somebody else and it had some rust on the outside only so after I restocked it to a safari and hunted this season with it I decided to have it nitride treated now I will take care of it properly and it will last for years !
I wonder if the coatings are more for us than the rifles? What I mean...they look sweet when coated, and while they obviously they add a substantial protection factor....does a quality rifle actually "need" a coating for protection? I would say that in the vast majority of cases, No. I have alot of rifles, many that are old and have been used quite a bit. I've never had one that needed to be coated to be protected....basic care and cleaning has always done just fine... Center-fire or ML.
Not a put down on the coatings at all. And for ML rifles, I can see how it may actually be a great thing - considering how many people are lazy or stupid when it comes to cleaning their guns. It might save some guns that would have been toast in a hurry. I wonder how that Nitrade coating holds up to BP fouling.
Muley, do a field test and let us
Well I didn't need it on my .504 because I owned that rifle since new so it was in perfect condition I did that just for the looks but the .410 I got from somebody else and it had some rust on the outside only so after I restocked it to a safari and hunted this season with it I decided to have it nitride treated now I will take care of it properly and it will last for years !
12-09-2015, 02:01 PM
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Well I didn't need it on my .504 because I owned that rifle since new so it was in perfect condition I did that just for the looks but the .410 I got from somebody else and it had some rust on the outside only so after I restocked it to a safari and hunted this season with it I decided to have it nitride treated now I will take care of it properly and it will last for years !
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12-09-2015, 02:16 PM
#27
Nontypical Buck
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yeah that's the one i got from you remember somebody tried to glass bed the original stock and put that one piece scope base on it. yeah it had some very light surface rust on it. i thought you got that from some guy in new york ??
12-09-2015, 02:31 PM
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Same guy that put scope bases on the one you did for me and they were pretty much permanently on there . Were was the rust ??? I guess i didnt see it ir i never would have sent that for sure
12-09-2015, 02:37 PM
#30
Fork Horn
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 153
I sure would like to have one of those CVA Accura MR with the Nitride Finish. I have been waiting to see if the Nitride had any of the flaking issues that the Previous CVA MR Muzzleloaders had. It seems they have resolved all of those issues from what I have gathered.
Problem is I don't need another Muzzleloader at the moment. I have been going back and updating my Optics on the ones I do have and its a handful just getting everything re zeroed.
Problem is I don't need another Muzzleloader at the moment. I have been going back and updating my Optics on the ones I do have and its a handful just getting everything re zeroed.