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ronlaughlin 09-24-2015 01:12 PM

Click Shooting
 
Yes, i forgot to replace the spent primer with a fresh one. Good experience though, there was zero flinch. Range was 202 yard, because i was looking to get ready for our rifle season, and i am wondering if i should use a muzzle loader, instead of a breech loader. This morning it was 43 degrees up in the mountains when i set out the target. What i did was shoot 3 times about as fast as one can reload with the X7, without worrying about the barrel getting too hot. Then the switch was made to the breech loader. After a couple of shots with the breech loader, the deer came, and walked right behind the target, forcing me to wait. Shiver is what happened then.












Four shots at the top target with the breech loader, and 4 shots at the middle target with the X7. The load used in the Omega was 110g Blackhorn, 250g MonoFlex bullet, black crush rib sabot, and W209 primer. The X7 had a 1.5x - 5x scope. The furthest left hole isn't; it is a fly. The shot 4" high on the middle target was the first from a cold clean barrel. Yes, it was strange to shiver whilst shooting.














clique (noun)

: a small group of people who spend time together and who are not friendly to other people


No clique on this forum, but occasionally there is a click.

flounder33 09-24-2015 01:32 PM

Welcome to the click.

Triple Se7en 09-24-2015 02:31 PM

My Click Club membership expires November 18th at 9:00 AM. That was the exact time when I took aim on a big doe, after forgetting to slam the action shut on my .270 Win, after loading a cartridge in the chamber of my semi-auto too softly / slowly an hour earlier.

It's a stupid mistake I wear to my hunting sit-down spot, about once every ten years.

MountainDevil54 09-24-2015 03:08 PM

yep, 3 antelope yesterday out at the Whittington center right in front of our target.

cayugad 09-24-2015 04:06 PM

Those are great pictures. I have heard that "click" at the worst times. And that deer coming out ... last year I had a deer standing behind my target, while I was at the range shooting. Not wanting to endanger it, I stopped shooting for the day. Great pictures and nice looking deer.

Gm54-120 09-25-2015 06:00 AM

At timed range sessions ive found myself forgetting to unscrew the Knight's secondary safety a bit too often. Rushing to get in that last shot before the 15min cease fire is annoying and "clickish".

Ive been far luckier when hunting and have yet to hear the click instead of boom.

miketodd58 09-25-2015 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by Gm54-120 (Post 4220401)
At timed range sessions ive found myself forgetting to unscrew the Knight's secondary safety a bit too often. Rushing to get in that last shot before the 15min cease fire is annoying and "clickish".

Ive been far luckier when hunting and have yet to hear the click instead of boom.

I lock tight down the secondary on the knight, never liked it. Never needed it,

Grouse45 09-25-2015 06:22 AM

Usually with a Flintlock in my case.

WV Hunter 09-25-2015 07:04 AM

A couple times on the range I've forgotten something and got the dreaded "click". I agree Ron, it lets you know how steady your shooting is. or isn't. Thankfully, while hunting I've never actually joined the click club. I've never joined a "clique" club either for that matter. :D

Oh, and I love knights secondary safety. Great invention and safety feature, especially for those who hunt in stands.

Gm54-120 09-25-2015 07:17 AM


Oh, and I love knights secondary safety. Great invention and safety feature, especially for those who hunt in stands.
I can certainly understand why some don't like it. I do like it when at the range or when hunting in a elevated stand. When a split second makes the difference between a shot or nada....not so much but i would rather be "safer" than "sorrier".

WV Hunter 09-25-2015 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by Gm54-120 (Post 4220417)
I can certainly understand why some don't like it. I do like it when at the range or when hunting in a elevated stand. When a split second makes the difference between a shot or nada....not so much but i would rather be "safer" than "sorrier".

I can see that, but I never have been in a situation with the secondary safety on where that happened. The only time I use it is when climbing in out of stands, when riding on atv, or in my truck from one part of the farm to another, etc. When I am walking to or from a stand, or still hunting, or while in stand its always off.

I guess for some folks who forget they had it on, it could make for a bad day...especially if the whopper walked up.

Gm54-120 09-25-2015 10:20 AM


I never have been in a situation with the secondary safety on where that happened
I have not either. Its off when walking to and from my stand. Its on while in the stand because i usually have plenty of time to take a shot.

MountainDevil54 09-25-2015 10:20 AM

best safety is to keep the rifle unprimed while climbing up or over anything. Especially should not be primed on an atv!

Gm54-120 09-25-2015 11:54 AM

In a tree stand its used as an extra measure of safety in case the gun were to fall. When the secondary is engaged, its nearly impossible for the firing pin to hit the primer.

sabotloader 09-25-2015 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by Gm54-120 (Post 4220470)
In a tree stand its used as an extra measure of safety in case the gun were to fall. When the secondary is engaged, its nearly impossible for the firing pin to hit the primer.

Both Tony Knight and Doc White put secondary safeties on their rifles for safety insurance while doing activities that have been mention.
they are useful when used properly. And normally once accustomed to the operation of the Secondary Safety few ever have any problems with them.

miketodd58 09-25-2015 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by WV Hunter (Post 4220414)
A couple times on the range I've forgotten something and got the dreaded "click". I agree Ron, it lets you know how steady your shooting is. or isn't. Thankfully, while hunting I've never actually joined the click club. I've never joined a "clique" club either for that matter. :D

Oh, and I love knights secondary safety. Great invention and safety feature, especially for those who hunt in stands.

Anytime I am in a stand my MZ goes up unloaded. Which means uncapped. I can use a capper about as fast as I can that stupid saftey.

No other forward throw saftey firearm that I know of has that Rinky dink saftey,and nine of them need it.

miketodd58 09-25-2015 06:43 PM

Would anyone be willing to guess at the number of clicks that have gone off in the woods because of that horrible design? It's gotta be in the thousands if not tens of thousands,

sabotloader 09-25-2015 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by miketodd58 (Post 4220528)
Would anyone be willing to guess at the number of clicks that have gone off in the woods because of that horrible design? It's gotta be in the thousands if not tens of thousands,

I do not know - other than I have been using Knights and Whites for 15+ years and have never had that problem - I would say it is just a matter of knowing your equipment.

Grouse45 09-26-2015 01:12 AM


Originally Posted by sabotloader (Post 4220534)
I do not know - other than I have been using Knights and Whites for 15+ years and have never had that problem - I would say it is just a matter of knowing your equipment.

I love the second safety, no issues with me. I'm ok with guns that don't have it as well

WV Hunter 09-26-2015 03:38 AM


Originally Posted by miketodd58 (Post 4220528)
Would anyone be willing to guess at the number of clicks that have gone off in the woods because of that horrible design? It's gotta be in the thousands if not tens of thousands,

I'm sure there have been plenty, but its not because of the design ....its from user error.
As others have said, you don't have to use it, but its there if you want to. I personally think its a great feature and use it all the time. I've been shooting Knights for 22yrs, and never had an issue.

super_hunt54 09-26-2015 06:28 AM

I'm thinking "probabilities" here not facts but I would have to imagine that safety was designed and put on there because capping and decapping those bolt action style inlines are such a pain in the rear.

Slowburn 09-26-2015 06:35 AM

I was huntin and I forgot. You ever forget? It happened to me.

sabotloader 09-26-2015 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by Slowburn (Post 4220581)
I was huntin and I forgot. You ever forget? It happened to me.

I am sure that it has happened to others and I am sure that it will happen in the future - but with your training it will probably only happen once.

The only time I time I really use the secondary safety is when traversing something difficult or raking the bolt apart. I really do not use it in the normal hunting situation.

Slowburn 09-26-2015 08:06 PM

Honestly, I only use the secondary if I am using a tree stand which is almost never and when I haul it in my Rhino here on the farm and that's without the primer in the rifle. I do like the safety and keep it on especially when I am in camp or at the house but then again with no primer. I live alone and no kids around but I do like knowing that secondary safety is on when I come in from hunting. Under normal hunting conditions I don't use it.

super_hunt54 09-26-2015 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by Slowburn (Post 4220652)
Honestly, I only use the secondary if I am using a tree stand which is almost never and when I haul it in my Rhino here on the farm and that's without the primer in the rifle. I do like the safety and keep it on especially when I am in camp or at the house but then again with no primer. I live alone and no kids around but I do like knowing that secondary safety is on when I come in from hunting. Under normal hunting conditions I don't use it.

My question for that is, WHY have it on without a primer? You don't use it "under normal hunting conditions" when it is MEANT to be used (in other words while there is a primer in it) but you DO use it when there isn't a primer in it? That makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever.


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