OK missed it...thanks!

I'm generally the same way but that thing is just butt ugly. That forearm cutout?? What gerbil brain decided THAT looked good? And did you see that 1/8 inch span where the stock connects to the receiver? AND whats up with that HUGE rod guide? Dang thing looks like an epileptic monkey put the thing together with a lego hammer!

Couldn't have said it better Semi. :lolabove:


I find it really ironic that TC now owns and is selling the redemption.

The one critical flaw that has still not been addressed is......scope mounting.

Look at the eye relief on that scope and tell me if you think that looks correct. While the externally thread breach plug sounds like a good idea, its a nightmare for mounting a scope properly. The ocular bell on that scope in lined up with the trigger. How many scopes do you think have over 5" of eye relief?

Sure this can be solved with a base that over hangs the breach plug cap but then the cap becomes more difficult to remove.

Assuming that eye relief is fixed lets look at scope height. How much lower can you go before the ocular bell gets too close to the action lever?

On top of all that it is still butt ugly with poor fitting stocks. :p

And T/C implies its their innovations in the video. They didn't event anything. LHR invented it and now T/C is taking the credit for it.

Excellent point GM. Take a look at the above posted picture of my Mustang, and notice how the scope is mounted as far back in the mounts as possible in order to provide proper eye relief.

Agree. As I said before, the definition of irony; LHR's main people were ex-T/C employees who were not happy with the S&W purchase and subsequent shutdown and move of the main T/C production facility. So they make their own new company and produce a new ML with some pretty cool innovations, only to ultimately sell that company to the other company that caused them to bail in the first place.

A big question is whether, in the course of the buyout negotiations, was there any mention of current Redemption owners? Meaning, will TC/S&W honor the LHR warranty?

Somebody made some money...............