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Triple Se7en 08-25-2015 05:42 AM

Thanks for the OE tip Pete. Waiting on the FF to come in stock.

I recall the first time my hunting partner found out pellets was a bad idea in his sidehammer Traditions Deerhunter. So he got the bullet puller in action - then kept banging the side of the bore to release the two Pyrodex pellets.

They were stuck in there. When he first started ML'ing, he painted Bore Butter all over his bore wall. I ended-up priming his nipple with my loose FFF 777 to get those pellets out of that bore.

super_hunt54 08-25-2015 06:59 AM

Pete, pellets are designed with an accelerant through the holes in the middle. That is why they are NOT consistent from sidehammer ignition. They are made for inlines. I'd be willing to bet that Traditions sidelock you linked to would experience the exact same inconsistency every other sidelock has with pellets. I personally don't use the things myself. Never found them to be anywhere near the consistency of loose.

Gm54-120 08-25-2015 07:34 AM

T/C also made a sidelock called a Firestorm which had pellet load data. Both the T/C and the Traditions "pellet pushers" have removable breach plugs. It looks like the fire from the pan powder hits the pellet at its base.

I certainly would not recommend using pellets but.....

Muley Hunter 08-25-2015 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by super_hunt54 (Post 4214753)
Pete, pellets are designed with an accelerant through the holes in the middle. That is why they are NOT consistent from sidehammer ignition. They are made for inlines. I'd be willing to bet that Traditions sidelock you linked to would experience the exact same inconsistency every other sidelock has with pellets. I personally don't use the things myself. Never found them to be anywhere near the consistency of loose.

I know that, but the one I posted does work with pellets, and it's even a flintlock.

super_hunt54 08-25-2015 10:22 AM

re-directed flame channel systems still encounter misfire with pellets. They may ADVERTISE that they work but that doesn't mean they are consistent. I wouldn't put my trust in one on a buck of a lifetime. I wouldn't even put my trust in pellets period. Some may get good results from them and I'm sure many do. I just like to take as many possible factors off the table as I can. Click, poof, no boom with a 170 inch buck in my sights just isn't something I want to see.

Muley Hunter 08-25-2015 10:40 AM

Nobody is trying to sell you the gun. I have a friend who has one, and it's never failed to fire.

Blackpowdersmoke 08-25-2015 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by Gm54-120 (Post 4214767)
T/C also made a sidelock called a Firestorm which had pellet load data. Both the T/C and the Traditions "pellet pushers" have removable breach plugs. It looks like the fire from the pan powder hits the pellet at its base.

I certainly would not recommend using pellets but.....

I have a T/C Firestorm flintlock and it has never had a pellet shoved down the bore since I've owned it. A friend of mine's Dad has the same rifle and and has tried pellets, but went back to loose powder because he found them to be unreliable, especially in our late (Dec/Jan) flintlock only season. Another friend bought one of the Traditions "PA Pellet" model flintlocks and found out the same thing. They both use loose Black powder now.

The pellets may work better in the sidelock percussion rifles, but I wouldn't waste the time and $$$ using them in a flintlock.

BPS

Muley Hunter 08-26-2015 05:45 AM

A lot of guys have problems with flintlocks using any powder.

Triple Se7en 08-26-2015 06:05 AM

..... plus many PA Pellet rifle owners blame their hang/misfires on the gun, when in-fact the blame belongs to how & where they store their pellet-powder.

It's no secret that pellet powder more easily attracts moisture... for a host/number of reasons.... mainly storage and the insistence to reuse the same two pellets that spent three days hunting in the woods last year. Notice how the Redi-Pack that comes with the new purchase, does NOT include pellets? Why?..... because Traditions does not want responsibility for mis/hangfires.

Redi-Pak includes .50-cal. brass jag, round plastic ball starter, 25 cotton cleaning patches, 15 Hornady XTP bullets with plastic sabots, 2 universal fast loaders, a 209 plastic capper, brass in-line nipple pick, 1-oz. Bullet Lube, 4-oz. EZ Clean Solvent, double-ended nylon bristle cleaning brush, and a "how to" DVD.

Muley Hunter 08-26-2015 06:28 AM

I've always thought pellets was the worse idea ever for muzzleloaders. Right up there with smokeless powder.

If someone is so lazy they can't measure out the powder. They should stick to shooting CF guns, and factory ammo.


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