Very easily...

This one even easier because of the copper. And they are not as hard to get down if you raise the knurl to far. I guess I would say they are more forgiving. - I have done them and shot them...

The copper XP is not as strong as the brass XP and it can deform somewhat especially if large bone is hit. It is still an XP and will penetrate farther most.

http://www.lehighdefense.com/collect...ant=1073878840



Here they are now knurled



They were shot from my Western ULite



Here is photo collection

sl, could you give a little more insight on the base for the bullet? Is it 1 or 2 pieces and is it connected to the bullet by you or just resting on top? Lastly, I saw the name of that base in a thread but forgot the proper name of it. Where can that base be purchased? Much appreciated for any response.

The black polymer base is MMP 50 cal. Sub-Base or Sub-Bridge available from MMP Sabots.

They are not in any way attached to the bullet - the bullet just sits on top of the base. All the base does is act as a 'Wad'. You could use a shot card or even a regular wool wad to accomplish almost the same thing. I believe the sub-base provides the best gas seal.

They just one piece - You just push the base into the bore and place the bullet on top of it...





After you shoot them and if you can find them on the ground they really do not change much - you could almost re-shoot them.

It's called a sub base (also called a sub bridge). The bullet is seated on top of it. It helps in creating a better gas seal with these harder brass bullets since they don't obturate very much (if at all). I got mine from MMP. I think Midway carries them as well. I tried them under some of my connies and really saw little to no difference in performance but Sabot seems to feel they do help greatly with these brass bullets. I'll be using them to try out my new bloodlines when (if) they ever get here.

Sabot, quick question, I've had those bases for about a year now. You think they are like the MMP HP sabots and get a little brittle?

I am still shooting MMP that are over 10 years old never ever had a problem with that.

The new polymer formula is a far better more pliable product.

I should also say mine are stored out of the sun light . they are in the dark most of the time.

I was wondering about the wool/felt wad. If the sub base works better, that's what it will be. Only in jest I will say, I'm working on that 5%'er, and I'm almost there.


Thanks again to both of you for the great info.

When I when on their site it listed the XPs as $25/20 for the .458 - 305 gr. But regardless, I couldn't use them anyway in PA because they are non-expanding. I know you hunt Ohio so I guess they're legal there.

I'm using them for hogs bronko. And maybe because I bought a bulk shipment of 500 of them but I only paid $458 with shipping.

I don't have any plans on using the XP bullet at all. But I could check Ohio regs in case I want to.