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ronlaughlin 08-12-2015 12:44 PM

270 Match/Hunter E-MAX Captured
 
Happily, the second attempt to catch this bullet was a success. Once again the target was carpet, shelf, and water jugs. Range was 26 yard. Powder charge was 80g Blackhorn.











The bullet seemed to work different this second try. Makes me wonder if the tip got stuck in the first bullet or some such. It shredded the first jug, shredded, and flattened the second jug, and was found in the fourth jug. The fifth jug will be carried forward to the next test. The aluminum tip was found on the ground to the left, and in front of the horse. The bullet now weighs 203.1 grain.










Triple Se7en 08-12-2015 01:34 PM

That's the same bullet returned to you by the Eenarites. They tossed it back last night, via one of the Perseid meteors that showered our planet after midnight. It's categorized as a primate bullet on their planet..... in other words, garbage to them.

BarnesAddict 08-12-2015 02:08 PM

What do you think the BC is with that and 89grs of BH?

Those smokeless guys send them a long ways....................Accurately.

Gm54-120 08-12-2015 03:21 PM

That bullet is NOT intended for sabot use. Get the regular 275gr Match Hunter instead and push it as fast as you can.

super_hunt54 08-12-2015 03:34 PM

I honestly can't see how he got the thing to shoot in a sabot! Dang thing looks like a ballistic missile

Gm54-120 08-12-2015 03:42 PM

Its made for sabotless use in 45cal rifles. My non smoker will shoot that bad boy over 2600fps without cracking a sweat. The higher end builds are pushing them 3000fps.

Grouse45 08-12-2015 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by Gm54-120 (Post 4212555)
Its made for sabotless use in 45cal rifles. My non smoker will shoot that bad boy over 2600fps without cracking a sweat. The higher end builds are pushing them 3000fps.

What load is pushing a 270grn bullet 3000fps?

Gm54-120 08-12-2015 03:47 PM

78gr H4198

Hankins 45cal on a Rem 700 CF or 40X action. LRMP module ignition.

I imagine a Swinglock 45 can do about the same, That load make around 45Kpsi IIRC




Grouse45 08-12-2015 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by Gm54-120 (Post 4212560)
78gr H4198

Hankins 45cal on a Rem 700 CF or 40X action. LRMP module ignition.

I imagine a Swinglock 45 can do about the same, That loads make around 45Kpsi IIRC


I'm not familiar with H4198, cause IMR4198 won't touch that.

Gm54-120 08-12-2015 03:59 PM

I wont shoot them that hot because its murder on vent liners. You would be lucky to get 30 shots in a standard Savage type plug. The LRMP module plug with a tungsten bushing is good for hundreds of shots with that load though.

Grouse45 08-12-2015 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by Gm54-120 (Post 4212568)
I wont shoot them that hot because its murder on vent liners. You would be lucky to get 30 shots in a standard Savage type plug. The LRMP module plug with a tungsten bushing is good for hundreds of shots with that load though.

I actually have one or two of those plugs, but don't have a savage anymore.

Gm54-120 08-12-2015 04:06 PM

Hmmmmm very interesting or should i say IM very interested.

Old Rick Bibby plugs? Im only familiar with the new ones being sold at smokelessmz

Grouse45 08-12-2015 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by Gm54-120 (Post 4212571)
Hmmmmm very interesting or should i say IM very interested.

Old Rick Bibby plugs? Im only familiar with the new ones being sold at smokelessmz

Yes from Rick, you want that stuff

Gm54-120 08-12-2015 04:20 PM

I would cherish anything RB made. I barely got to post in the forums before he passed away.

Grouse45 08-12-2015 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by Gm54-120 (Post 4212577)
I would cherish anything RB made. I barely got to post in the forums before he passed away.

I've sat with him twice, great man!!

Gm54-120 08-12-2015 04:26 PM

Depending on which design, his was better suited to sabot loads. The recessed version brings the powder closer to the primer. That can be a big benefit with powders like 4198 and sabots in cold weather. I really enjoyed reading his old posts. Ive probably read every one on MML. My barrel is his original spec for contour, its very over built for safety.

Grouse45 08-12-2015 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by Gm54-120 (Post 4212580)
Depending on which design, his was better suited to sabot loads. The recessed version brings the powder closer to the primer. That can be a big benefit with powders like 4198 and sabots in cold weather. I really enjoyed reading his old posts. Ive probably read every one on MML. My barrel is his original spec for contour, its very over built for safety.

Check out the email I sent you. It has pics on it.

BuckDoeHunter 08-12-2015 04:43 PM

Hankins typically uses 78gr of IMR4198 to push a 275gr BE at 3000 fps, at least thats what his video says

Grouse45 08-12-2015 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by BuckDoeHunter (Post 4212583)
Hankins typically uses 78gr of IMR4198 to push a 275gr BE at 3000 fps, at least thats what his video says

I guess I haven't been keeping up with smokeless at all.

ronlaughlin 08-12-2015 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by BarnesAddict (Post 4212529)
What do you think the BC is with that and 89grs of BH?

Those smokeless guys send them a long ways....................Accurately.

If you are asking me.... i don't have a clue. The bullet was shot three times today; the first time i ever shot it. Chances are, i will never shoot it again.

ronlaughlin 08-12-2015 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by Triple Se7en (Post 4212525)
That's the same bullet returned to you by the Eenarites. They tossed it back last night, via one of the Perseid meteors that showered our planet after midnight. It's categorized as a primate bullet on their planet..... in other words, garbage to them.

NO, no, no it isn't. The jug was at Safeway last night. When the bullet was removed today, the lid had never ever been opened before... the bullet that was lost, was shot this morning, as was the bullet found in the jug.

You don't seem to realize they despise being called that. They refer to themselves as the Eenahs.

The bullet i found in the jug this morning was the third bullet i shot; which was the second bullet shot at the jugs. Admittedly, the Eenah did help me find the tip shown in the photo, but even they, were unable to find the lost bullet.

However, you are correct in that the bullet is kinda like garbage to them.

It wouldn't have bothered me if the Eenah had placed their bush off limits to me; the seeds out there, are now mature, and they stick to one's socks; get inside one's shoes, and socks. Even the Yeti stay out of that bush this time of year.


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