Nosler Ballistic Tip MZ
 

This morning as requested by Wolfer, we tested the Nosler Ballistic Tip MZ. Range was 25 yard. Load was 80g Blackhorn.












The bullet blew through the carpet, shelving, water jugs, and into the phone book. The bullet fell out of the book onto the ground as the book fell. It now weighs 300.1 grain. The new bullet weighs 299.8 grain.

That is not what i would have expected from that bullet.

Carpet clogged up the hollow. I guess that's another one that relies heavily on hydraulic pressure for the cavity to open. Seems like the tip should be what activates the starting.

Maybe try one without the carpet??????

try one on real game! I bet they open up really good on game.

Starting to look that BC advantage is actually a disadvantage. Pull the tip to increase terminal performance and you're back to square one. Yeah, pull the carpet.

I don't buy that at all. If that was the case Lehigh's wouldn't work either. Just another bullet someone should not use!!

I highly disagree, Thats a great bullet to use if you want to use a good heavy charge and take shoulder shots. This bullet has a very thick copper jacket that holds up very nicely. A great cheap elk /damgerous game or moose bullet. I wouldn't hesitate to use it.

Not sure which one/ones it was Grouse but I'm thinking Ron tested a couple of others that had the same issue of the cavity clogging and not opening because of it. I'll search posts and see if I can find the one/ones I'm talking about.

Yes I know, my point exactly. Hair, fat, tissue, could plug it up to. Next thing people are gonna ask Ron to quit testing bullets cause to many look bad. He already increased the powder so Barnes look better. This isn't directed at you, just sayin. It's amazing what people will do or say to make something bad try to look good.

ive shot plenty of thors without any expansion into sand. It needs water/flesh to open up. That MZ will do just fine.

Test the hornady FPB and see if it looks like the pictures they supply.

A forum member hunting in Oregon this week is having the same problem with Thors. Here is shooting 110 grains of T7 - they shot 3 elk and all of the bullets have penciled through. I think the longest shot was 60 yards, so the animal have been very close...'

Here is his post he put up..

We are hunting elk right now in Oregon and using Thro bullets , I have some questions and are we doing something wrong , We are getting pin hole pass threw's no expansion in the bullets ,, One of us was able to get a head shot on a yearling and I would expect a big exit hole ,,The 250 gr Thro bullet went straight threw the skull .500 hole in .500 hole out , It was originally hit left front shoulder bullet went threw shoulder down spine cut liver into out right side flank ,, Setup was a ,, CVA ML, 110 gr 3f Triple seven powder .
any help would be great ,,didn't retrieve bullets ,


I got to tell you I was really surprised with this example but in phone call to me I asked him very specific questions and everything points to penciling in all three Elk. It was a 247 gr. 501 Hollow Point.

That's why it kills me when people try to defend the bullets in Rons testing. I wish he would test the bullets and lock the threads so no one can comment.

One of them that didn't open was the federal, here: http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/blac...five-jugs.html .
There was a seond one I can't find that had carpet and tip like the present photo.

the largest record elk was shot with a thor and they opened up perfectly. I dont believe word of the mouth, i am more of a ... show me some pics... kind of guy.

I shot my muzzy shotgun today at 25 yards. They didnt go through a 1 gallon jug of water and the recovered bb's weren't even deformed. Do they make lehigh bb's that fragment and keep on truckin so i can be ensured a proper kill?

Perfect example. Someone supposedly shot a moose and that bullet fragmented to heck and beyond :s2::s2:

I would rather shoot a Barnes Original if i wanted a tough bullet. Higher BC, thick pure copper jacket and soft lead core. No poly tip to plug up.

Around $45/50 if you know where to look or about $1.10 a piece anywhere

the actual bullet was impressive in the penetration department. But the idea of it not opening kind of surprised me. I really did not expect the results. But thanks for testing that. I could see that on a large or dangerous game animal like a bear if you were looking for penetration. But again, I'd like to have seen some expansion.

Hornady FPB test

Wow, that Nosler looks like it hasn't even been shot...short of the tip missing.
Doesn't even look the slightest bit deformed. Based on that test, I would not use it if I got them free. Way too many other options that performed much better.

Probably because well known expanding bullets are not doing well I this test. If we know a bullet is proven on game. Then we have to look at this test.

I said from the beginning that carpet and plywood don't simulate hide. It should be obvious when Barnes and Partitions don't do well. Two bullets with great terminal performance on game.

Muley, the partition did excellent; shown in the photo, and in this test.

Sorry, I just noticed this was a BT bullet.


Never mind. :)