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Grouse45 01-28-2015 07:10 PM

Any suggestions on a new Flintlock??
 
The other day I was talking to Gordy at Knight rifles about making a Flintlock. I would like to see Knight make one in fall of 2015 for the 2016 hunting season. Any suggestions would be great and appreciated.

1874sharpsshooter 01-28-2015 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by Grouse45 (Post 4182493)
The other day I was talking to Gordy at Knight rifles about making a Flintlock. I would like to see Knight make one in fall of 2015 for the 2016 hunting season. Any suggestions would be great and appreciated.

Start with a 54 cal with a 1:70 twist and then a .58 with a 1:83 twist at least a 32 inch barrel maybe even longer , especially on the 58 . Maybe a 42 or so for it . Then make the same gun in percussion. I love the percussion sidelocks . After that a Knight English Sporting Rifle in .451 with a 1:18 twist . I would buy one for sure .

Grouse45 01-28-2015 07:47 PM

I was thinking a 1/20 .451 26" useable barrel flintlock with a removable breech plug.

Semisane 01-28-2015 07:50 PM

.54 caliber for sure, with a 15/16" barrel.
Any twist from 1:60 to 1:72 would be fine.
Hooked breech.
Factory peep sight on the tang.

The big question is ......... half stock or full stock. (HINT: I don't need another half stock. :s2:)

bronko22000 01-28-2015 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by Semisane (Post 4182498)
.54 caliber for sure, with a 15/16" barrel.
Any twist from 1:60 to 1:72 would be fine.
Hooked breech.
Factory peep sight on the tang.

The big question is ......... half stock or full stock. (HINT: I don't need another half stock. :s2:)

yeah - what he said!!!

Blackpowdersmoke 01-28-2015 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by Grouse45 (Post 4182493)
The other day I was talking to Gordy at Knight rifles about making a Flintlock. I would like to see Knight make one in fall of 2015 for the 2016 hunting season. Any suggestions would be great and appreciated.

I find this amusing. The late (and great) Robin Williams once said..."Man spends the first 9 months of his life trying to get out of the womb, and the rest of his life trying to get back in". Now, are you in-line boys just getting bored or are you trying to get back to your humble beginnings as well? :biggrin:

My suggestion is... just buy a flintlock rifle. Lyman is good, T/C (used, they're no longer made), TVM (pricey, but made to order), or have one built by any number of custom builders out there,... it doesn't matter, just pick what suits your style of hunting and budget. Something with a slow twist, anywhere from 1:60 -1:72, LEARN to shoot it with real black powder and patched round balls. NOT sabots and jacketed bullets and Foghorn Leghorn 209 or whatever it is ya'll are tootin' your horns about. The slower twists will stabilize a larger ball better so if you want your rifle throwing a heavier ball, go with a slower twist. Then, go out and hunt with a REAL muzzleloader!!

Personally... I've always had a hankerin' to have a custom full stocked Hawken rifle built in .62 caliber with a 1:76 twist!!

BPS

nchawkeye 01-29-2015 01:39 AM

Agree with a .54, agree with slow twist, would need to be deep, cut rifling, not button...

Would have to have a 38-44 inch SWAMPED barrel, a straight barrel would be a bear to lug around in the woods...A swamped barrel puts the weight between your hands and the rifle balances properly...

Lancaster design stock, daisy patch box, large Siler flintlock, AAA curly maple stock, Davis double set triggers...

edmehlig 01-29-2015 03:27 AM

And lets not forget to make the same rifles in Left Handed models. Especially with the Flintlocks. Grin

edmehlig 01-29-2015 03:29 AM


Originally Posted by Grouse45 (Post 4182497)
I was thinking a 1/20 .451 26" useable barrel flintlock with a removable breech plug.

x2 but I want a left handed model. GRIN

TNHagies 01-29-2015 04:27 AM


Originally Posted by Semisane (Post 4182498)
.54 caliber for sure, with a 15/16" barrel.
Any twist from 1:60 to 1:72 would be fine.
Hooked breech.
Factory peep sight on the tang.

The big question is ......... half stock or full stock. (HINT: I don't need another half stock. :s2:)

Semi beat me to it.

lemoyne 01-29-2015 06:20 AM

I can not believe that the economics of it will ever justify going back to building flint locks.

cayugad 01-29-2015 06:23 AM

A .504 (have them copy the White Barrel) caliber in a 28" stainless steel barrel with a 1-24 twist. Also, with a high quality lock. Synthetic stock also. Make this into a good hunting rifle. Also make sure the trigger is a single trigger with a very crisp break. A Timney might be nice as long as it breaks real clean and not sloppy. Also make sure the rifle can be removed from the stock, either with locking lugs or a tang, but it can be removed for easy cleaning. A removable breech plug would be nice too, like the PA Pellet or the RMC that was around. This would make the shooter positive that the barrel was spotless and make the rifle easier to clean.

This would make a easy to maintain, easy to carry, weather resistant, large caliber legal in all states for all large game, conical shooting monster. Also with this twist as we know, it could also shoot sabots for those that hate conical bullets.

Grouse45 01-29-2015 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by lemoyne (Post 4182582)
I can not believe that the economics of it will ever justify going back to building flint locks.

Some states like PA you must still use a Flintlock in late muzzleloader season. But I understand what you mean.

1874sharpsshooter 01-29-2015 08:46 AM

I'm still waiting on a fast twist 45 , can't imagine how long a wait it would be on a flintlock:s2:


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