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Grouse45 01-08-2015 04:00 PM

BH209 test
 
I always read that people say you must have a tight bullet sabot combination to shoot BH209. I have tested that theory before BH209 was on the market and could not ever prove that to be true. So today after reading the other thread I decided to test again.

When I got home today I loaded up my 50cal knight mountaineer with a special made .450 bullet to test this theory. I also used a harvester short black crush rib sabot. Of course I hate those sabots. Knight rifles to me and most others have larger diameter bores then other inline muzzleloaders today. So I loaded and shot 3 shots of 100grns by volume of BH209. First shot was with a Winchester primer, 2nd was with a federal primer, and third was with a Remington sts primer. No delays and instant ignition. So as I found out many years ago no issues.

So after doing this I loaded up the gun again and left it outside. The temp tonight is supposed to be -4 with wind chill reaching -20. In the morning I will fire the gun again before going to work. After that I will load it again in the cold and then bring inside all day. When I get home I will bring the gun back outside all night and fire the next morning.

I will post more results in the morning.

I should note, I am using the proper breech plug for BH209. 5/32 flame channel and tapped for a .031 vent liner.

Semisane 01-08-2015 04:20 PM

What's the bullet's weight Grouse?

Grouse45 01-08-2015 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by Semisane (Post 4179499)
What's the bullet's weight Grouse?

I think it's 247grns?? My 86 year old hunting buddy couldn't load a .452 250grn Lehigh bullet in his Knight vision. So I had them make him a .450 bullet. I believe it's right around 247grns now but not positive on that.

Muley Hunter 01-08-2015 05:45 PM

I believe most of us said you need a tight conical. I would think any sabot would work.

I had some loose fitting Thor bullets that wouldn't work with BH. The primer would fire, and just push the powder and bullet out about 5 feet.

txhunter58 01-09-2015 03:51 AM

I got lucky one time using BH 209. The one and only time I have short started a bullet (FPB conical). When I pulled the trigger, the gun went pop (primer) but the BH 209 did not ignite, and it just pushed the bullet out on the ground. Boy was I lucky!!

ronlaughlin 01-09-2015 04:00 AM

.. and that is why Blackhorn just may be the safest powder to use in a muzzle loader.

Grouse45 01-09-2015 05:52 AM

Fired the gun off this morning with no problem. I loaded it up in the cold and took in the house to shoot off tonight or put back outside and shoot in the morning.

ModernPrimitive 01-09-2015 08:37 AM

Grouse45, this is interesting.

Not BH209 but relevant-

several years back I lent a Renegade to a buddy of mine for the season with the admonition to bring it back clean; when returning it to my shop he mentioned it was ready to go which I took to mean it was cleaned, lubed, and ready for storage.

What he actually meant was that he hadn't fired it at all and it was still charged with a prb and 777, as I found out almost one year later while firing a cap to foul the barrel! :jaw:

So that was 11 full months in a cabinet, in an unheated (at the time)mudroom, exposed to the cold of winter, the heat and humidity of summer, as well as everything in between- went off instantly.

I was both surprised and impressed.

Grouse45 01-09-2015 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by ModernPrimitive (Post 4179628)
Grouse45, this is interesting.

Not BH209 but relevant-

several years back I lent a Renegade to a buddy of mine for the season with the admonition to bring it back clean; when returning it to my shop he mentioned it was ready to go which I took to mean it was cleaned, lubed, and ready for storage.

What he actually meant was that he hadn't fired it at all and it was still charged with a prb and 777, as I found out almost one year later while firing a cap to foul the barrel! :jaw:

So that was 11 full months in a cabinet, in an unheated (at the time)mudroom, exposed to the cold of winter, the heat and humidity of summer, as well as everything in between- went off instantly.

I was both surprised and impressed.

Hows the barrel? I guess that would be tough to tell with a Flintlock im assuming??

Muley Hunter 01-09-2015 11:03 AM

No, he fired a cap. Caplock.


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