Bore Butter-Wonder Lube=difference?
 

What is the difference in these two lubes?

same thing.

Different name.

Burma Shave
 

You boys are like Burma Shave signs; you didn't even practice.

Bore Butter

Wonder Lube

Same Thing

Different Name

Both are used

In the shooting game

:s2:

Both are useless as well... :)

Oh for the love of God and Sonny Jesus mounting man, did you have to mention Bore butter? I'm surprised there hasn't been a tirade of RANTS about it yet from the "experts".
BPS

is a wonder that there isn't a block on the words like cuss words.

:D Al

He never asked if it was any good. :p

Well... Ya got a point there Muley. But usually a mere mention is enough to draw serious fire! :fighting0007:

Did you get a shot at a bear with your smokepole this season?

BPS

I came close. I called in two bears, and when they got around 100yds they started to circle around behind me. They caught my scent, and wandered off. All the areas that had berry bushes produced no bears.

Other than that. Nothing!

Oh well... at least you had some action. Not like you sat and saw nothing for the season. I'll bet your ol' ticker was a pumpin' when you saw those two getting interested in your calling! Maybe next season...

BPS

As BPS knows,it gets very cold here! I want to play with some Maxis and real bullets in my inlines and flinters? Can you guys give me a lube idea that will work? The 2 i ask about are really hard in the cold! I've seen lube recipes but don't know which to try. Would you folks give me a couple of ones i could make?

I uses Stumpy's Moose Snot, you can add more oil if you are in very cold conditions...Some on this website also like mink oil that they get from Track...There are numerous discussions on the Traditional forum that discuss lubes, all have their advocates...

http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fu...hp?tid/203261/

Stumpy's Moose Snot

Beeswax 2 oz.
Castor Oil 8 oz.
Murphy's Oil Soap 1 oz.


Heat beeswax in a can (I use a tall cleaned out Baked Bean can) set a pot of water. ( A double-boiler. Add just enough water so the inner can does not begin to float (should be just short of the lube level in the can). Heat the water to a low boil.

In a separate can, add the castor oil and Murphy's oil soap (cold). Once the beeswax is melted, swap the castor oil can in the pot of water for the beeswax. Add the beeswax to the oils. It will clump up.

Stir with anything you have. I just took some wooden wedges, split them length way, and made stir sticks. Keep mixing the ingredents as the mixture heats up. When it fully melts there will be a scum that floats to the top and just won't mix in. Be patient. DO NOT COOK THE MIXTURE.

Once the solids are dissolved there is no need to heat further. Skim the scum off. Remove the mix from the heat and wipe the water off the outside (so it won't drip into the container when you pour it out). FINAL STEP .... Add a teaspoon of Murphy's Oil Soap and stir vigorously. This last step makes the lube frothy and smooth - really adds to the appearance; though it doesn't seem to matter to the function of the lube. Clamp the can in the jaws of a vice-grip pliers and pour into the waiting tins. Allow to cool a half hour.

For colder climates where you want the lube softer, just add a little more oil. When made the conventional way, this stuff stands up to heat and cold. Its a good lube. I have tried other things to "make the lube better," but Stumpy's original formula is really as good as it gets.


This second reciepe is a variation of Junior Lube. I changed it a little and like mine better.

Junior Lube..

exactly 3 fluid ounces of melted lard
exactly 400 grains of solid beeswax
exactly 100 grains of Alox solid bullet lube.

I substituted liquid Lyman Alox for the solid Alox lube that he suggested. I have bottle of this from all the sizing molds I purchased through LEE Molds. I also instead of melted lard, use castor oil.

Since the castor oil comes in a 4 ounce bottle at Wal Mart, I kicked up the solid beeswas to 500 grains, and the Liquid Alox to 125 grains. You can adjust the ingredents to make the lube as hard or as soft as you like. It makes an excellent lube.

Now you know bears have good noses Mulie. You should have taken your annual bath before you went out! :eek2:

Good point Bronko. Sometimes when the wind is out of the Northwest I think I get a whiff of Mulie down here in Louisiana.

Wow, that must be awful!

Sissies....:p

I use bore butter to lube my over powder wads. I tested Hornady Great Plains lube vs Bore butter and the bore butter was the winner. Some might not like it I understand. For an over powder wad it works well.

Ive used light amounts on dry felt wads without any issues either. I put a little on each side and bag them up for a few days before use.

Ditto Ron...

I use it for that as well and although I never use it as a preservative, and I know the naysayers will contradict me, I still do use it as a patch lube in some of my rifles as they like the taste of it. I always flush my barrels after a shooting session so I'm not worried about a "buildup" or whatever everyone else is so negative about. As for an answer to mounting man's post.... Track's Mink oil works well as a cold weather lube, but I've found it gets kinda runny in warm weather. I've never tried Stumpy's Moose Snot, or Junior lube, but I've known about them for some time and just haven't taken the time to try either. I remember one of nchawkeye's posts awhile back saying that he used Sno-seal as a patch lube for years and may try that some day as well.

I would say any lube you use that won't get too stiff in the cold which could make loading difficult would be good but you don't want something that will dry out and flake off the projectile either, as Bore butter will do if left on for an extended period of time. You also don't want something too thin which could allow the projectile to slide forward and we all know that's not good. I was given a couple of tubes of the old "Blue and Grey" a few years back and although it was OK as a patch lube, it was too slippery for a good conical lube.

BPS

Not sure what lube is used on NoExcuses bullets, but it worked the best of all the ones i've tried. He says it's his own formula, but everybody says that. I'd love to know what it is.