RUSTED!!! CVA Optima
Ok... I have been shooting my TC Omega for several years & love it... so I am not new to this...
But my cousin in just getting into hunting... after he killed a nice bukc w/ my gun last year.... So I was checking the local pawn shop for some deals... they have a decent optima that I am considering for $120... but then he reaches behind the counter & pulls out this Nickel Optima w/ synthetic stock.... and the outside of the barrel is pretty pitted... so I pull the breech plug & look down the barrel & it looked pretty crusty... couldn't tell much with the low light in the shop... He told me I could have it for $20.... wondering if it would be possible to bring this "project" back from the dead??? Or if it's a lost cause that I should walk away from??? |
No way to tell until you buy it and try to clean up...
A hundred strokes with JB Bore Paste can to wonders though... It may group 3 inches at 100 yards vs 1 1/2...If ranges are within 100, it will be a cheap deal... Heck, the stock and extra parts are worth a 20... |
Pass on the gun. Dealing with a badly rusty gun is not worth the hassle.
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If the optima for a 120 has a good barrel buy it .
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buy both guns. order a new barrel for the rusty one and sell one of them to your cousin. problem solved.
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Offer him $120 for both guns. Then you can't lose.
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I would look the gun over real close. But for 20 bucks.. if the trigger and hammer work good.. and you can get the breech plug out, well as I used to say, I left more money then that in a urinal on a good time Friday night.
I would get it as a project gun. Scrub the barrel down, if necessary a mild lapp of the barrel would help. It might be a short range shooter, say 75 yards or less, but it would be fun to have for part if anything else. |
Just thinking that maybe and optima elite for 20 if so you can buy any cal barrel for the gun.
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What I would do in that situation is try for a good price on both guns like 110 the strip the rusty one and soak all the parts in Evapo-Rust and clean them up then polish the mating surfaces and order a new barrel for it with a bit of polishing it should be usable or saleable.
I would not try to force the action to work as you might damage parts, once it's cleaned up then you will be able to see what is needed if anything. |
Originally Posted by JohnnyHildo
(Post 4095077)
buy both guns. order a new barrel for the rusty one and sell one of them to your cousin. problem solved.
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Originally Posted by Muley Hunter
(Post 4095087)
Offer him $120 for both guns. Then you can't lose.
What Muley said! If you can get them both for $120-$130...go for it! You can always use the rusty one for a project gun. Watch Ebay for used parts, etc. Maybe scour it out with JB paste and get it shooting decent and keep it as a "back up only" gun and tweek the good one in and use it. I once brought home a Traditions in-line rifle (can't remember which model) from my Mother-in-laws shop that had the old style spring cocking mechanism. She had bought it from an individual for $50. The bore looked good, but a lot of the blackened parts showed rust and the man told her he didn't know much about muzzleloading rifles so I doubt he ever took any time to develop a load. I took it apart, cleaned it up and took all of the blackened parts to work with me and polished them and then had them run through our black bath tanks. I sighted the rifle in with 90gr. of loose Pyro RS and some Powerbelt (I believe 250gr.) bullets I had to spare and got very good accuracy with it. I took it back to her shop with the sight-in target and load data written on it and told her to ask $100 for it. A week later the same man she bought it from bought it back! BPS |
Tell him to throw in the rusty one and he has a deal. I have a Knight that I bought in an online auction. When I got it there was a rust spot about 3" from the muzzle in the bore. Someone on here told me to use Evaporust on it. I did and it came right out. That barrel is as clean as a whistle and shoots great.
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Rust is one thing, but pitting is horrible!!! Tried to work with a barrel that had rust and after working on it a while I found the pitting to be too much. I couldn't get it to shoot worth a darn. But who knows, like Dave said I also left more then $20 in a bar urinal!!!
Good luck pal |
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