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Blackpowdersmoke 04-19-2013 08:48 AM

OT...It's gone WAY too far!!!
 
I was visiting a friend recently and he and his wife were telling me about a recent incident that involved their 10 yr. old son. While waiting for the school bus one morning last week, the boy spotted a pretty stone in the gravel parking lot where he stood so he picked it up and put it in his pocket. After he got on the bus and sat down, he showed the stone to the girl he shared a seat with. She didn't say anything to him but when she got off the bus, she informed the bus driver that the boy had a "sharp object that could be used as a weapon".

He was called to the Principal's office and reprimanded as well as threatened with suspension. Well, as you might have already guessed, my friend and his wife payed a visit to the school and ripped the Principal a new @$$!!!

The boy was allowed to keep the stone so they showed it to me. It was a small, triangular-shaped, piece of natural quartz about the size of a Walnut. Now, as far as being sharp, you could have died of exaustion trying to cut yourself or anyone else with it before you ever drew blood.

So much for the boy's budding interest in rock collecting, he was alllowed to keep the stone providing that he never bring anything like that to school again. What if he had found an Indian arrowhead? It sickens me to no end to see what the liberals have done to this country in the short timespan of my life but what sickens me even worse is to think of the world this boy is going to have to grow up in.

BPS

jaybez101099 04-19-2013 09:26 AM

Bps thats the world we live in now. The liberals along with the liberal media is taking our beloved country and ruining our society. Political correctness is the first thing we need to eliminate.


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Semisane 04-19-2013 11:41 AM

It's a result of what I call the "Girly-men Phenomenon". Given the attacks on masculinity by the media and misguided feminism, it's a wonder boys aren't castrated at birth. It's a sad time for boys in America.

Semisane 04-19-2013 11:50 AM


Political correctness is the first thing we need to eliminate.



I'm with you on that Jaybez.

Try this for a start.


Gm54-120 04-19-2013 11:57 AM

When i was young we had model rocketry clubs and we brought arrowheads to school for show and tell. Lots of kids even carried small pocket knives. We never had a problem and any weapon related violence was super rare.

Something has changed and its not the rocks, arrowheads, pocket knives or model rockets.

Semisane 04-19-2013 12:17 PM

Every guy in my 4th. grade class had a pocket knife. :patriot:

We would play mumbley-peg during recess. (You young squirts will probably need to Google mumbley-peg. :s2: )


Showing off a new pocket knife - in the school yard - was mandatory, and there was often heated discussion regarding the relative merits of Gerber vs. Old Town vs. Case. ("Chuck's old knife doesn't even have a name on it. hee-hee") We gave the trees hell carving initials and such, but it would not even have occurred to us to harm someone with our knife.


Oh well. I think I'll have a Scotch.

Gm54-120 04-19-2013 12:39 PM

I had a Frontier kinda like this one.


I got it from grandpa when i was maybe 10 and carried it for years. Pulling a knife in a fight was pretty much a taboo. We beat the tar out of each other with our fists...like real men. :D

Pawildman 04-19-2013 12:44 PM

IMO the entertainment industry in this country shares a HUGE responsibility for the way people have changed over the years. Not just the kids. The extreme violence, blood, gore, and the language used is just intolerable anymore. Nudity, sex, and the flaunting of our LEO's in both film, videos and the "music" has become totally disgusting. A young kid gets "busted" for bringing a rock he found attractive to school, but yet it's perfectly OK to let him listen to vulgar music lyrics and watch blood and guts being displayed to him on TV and in videos along with all the filthy dialogue that so often accompanies it. And then you have some liberals who want to fix everything but the real problem. Absolutely unbelievable....

HuntAway 04-19-2013 01:24 PM

Never heard it called mumbly peg before but I do recall playing it.
Never left home without a pocket knife. I remember riding home on the bus with my brand new shotgun and a couple boxes of shells. Try that today!

So sad what the world has become.

HA

jaybez101099 04-19-2013 03:25 PM

Semi ....GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE


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bronko22000 04-19-2013 05:44 PM

I had a Barlow knife. That heavy main blade was great for whittling. I used it to make many a homemade bow form willow branches.

ronlaughlin 04-19-2013 06:47 PM

We played a game called 'Stretch' on the school playground during recess, and also before school. Can't really recall the 'rules'. Just remember throwing our knives, and sticking them in the ground and the opponent had to stretch his foot out to the knife. Kinda recall, we had to stick the knife in the ground close to the foot of the opponent, and then he had to stretch his foot to the stuck blade, or some such thing. Winner was the last man standing, so it seems one couldn't just stick the knife a way out yonder. Seems i recall some kind of 'honor' to avoid sticking the knife into the opponent's foot.

Myself, i kinda recall i quit playing when i discovered the blade of my knife was dulled by sticking it into the ground. To bad i didn't have the diamond stones then, that i have now, and/or the money to purchase such a thing. Right now my 'carry' knife is a Case with a single non-stainless blade , that one opens with one hand. Never will i forget when i discovered how brittle the stainless blade was, on a new pretty knife. Today, one kinda has to search for a pocket knife that doesn't have a stainless blade, but they are plentiful, and easy to find, if one looks.

Semisane 04-19-2013 07:07 PM

Here are the "mumbly-peg" rules we played by.

Two guys stood facing each other with their feet together. Each would throw his knife to stick in the ground as close as possible to his own foot, then move that foot next to the knife. Keeping that position, the knife was thrown again, with each throw spreading the feet wider. The first guy who could not stretch his feet wide enough to contact the knife lost. Or if your knife did not stick up, you lost. Then the winner, holding the tip of his knife blade, used the handle to drive an ice cream stick (the peg) into the ground as far as he could and the loser had to pull out the stick with his teeth (the mumbly). Of course, the game is played on soft ground - best after a rain.

(Aren't off-topic posts fun! I love this forum.)

Hey! It rained. Let's play mumbly-peg.

cayugad 04-19-2013 08:23 PM

I drove my poor old mother crazy with pocket knives. She used to confiscate them from me when she could catch me with one. Most of them were Barlow because the little store down the road sold Barlow knives and I could afford them. My mother never liked the idea of me walking around with knives, but she finally gave in and just told me not to cut myself. When I was about 24 years old the (ex) wife and I were visiting the folks and the women were looking for all the embarrassing things about me when I was a young kid that mothers save.. (you know the ones.. photographs of me making muscles, in swim trunks, short cut hair, valentines to mother we had to make in first grade...).. anyway my mother came out of the back storage bedroom with a cigar box and handed it to me. Inside were seven pocket knives. She always told me she threw them away, but I should have known better. My mother never threw ANYTHING away.

Semisane 04-19-2013 08:58 PM

That's great Cayugad. A box of memories.

I had bunches of pocket knives. My grandfather (Dad's father) was a cop. Anytime he confiscated a knife from a drunk in the French Quarter one of the grandkids got it.

My favorite was a two-bladed Case with a drop point on one end and a Sheepsfoot on the other.

SuperKirby 04-20-2013 05:48 AM

My 5 year old has been asking for a pocket knife for awhile. After reading this I reckon maybe on my next day off it's time to go get him a pocket knife (with a few rules of course.)

RobertSubnet 04-20-2013 06:11 AM


Something has changed and its not the rocks, arrowheads, pocket knives or model rockets.
+1

I was too young for it but I have heard stories of guys who used to bring rifles/shotguns to use on the school range.

Agree that the "entertainment" industry shares responsibility for what has happened to our society. There is no way a person who actively consumes the stuff that passes for entertainment today cannot be effected by the sex, violence and profanity.

Muley Hunter 04-20-2013 06:40 AM

We all had knives, but look at us now. We kill animals, and cut them up.

Blackpowdersmoke 04-20-2013 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by RobertSubnet (Post 4052322)
+1

I was too young for it but I have heard stories of guys who used to bring rifles/shotguns to use on the school range.

Ironically, this incident happened in the same school district in which I went to school 12 yrs. When I was in high school, we had a "Sportsman's Club" as an extracurricular activity. For 8 weeks during the fall semester we would meet every Friday after school (weather permitting) at the local rod & gun club for a shoot. I can remember many times getting on the bus in the morning with my .22 or shotgun.

We had to leave our gun up front with the bus driver and take it to the office when we got to school but we were allowed to keep our ammo in our locker. We had a school van driven by the teacher that headed up the activity to haul us to the shooting range after classes were over. The only thing we had to worry about was getting a ride home when the shoot was over.

And yes, we ALL had pocket knives. It's sad to think that this way of life is gone from us forever.

BPS

WV Hunter 04-20-2013 02:02 PM

I agree, the world we live in sucks now.

A little over 20yrs ago I was at Va Tech and had a rifle, shotgun, and compound bow in my dorm room closet. I'd go hunting whenever I had free time. Tons of public land a stones throw away from campus. Never had an issue, and everyone knew it was there. Funny thing...I wasn't even worried it would get stolen.

Last year a kid in my state got expelled from highschool for shooting an airsoft ball at a classmate through a straw (aka spitball) ... some over zealous liberal pansies called it a "weapon". Un-freaking-believeable. What I can't understand is how anyone can agree with this kind of BS.

RobertSubnet 04-20-2013 03:51 PM


What I can't understand is how anyone can agree with this kind of BS.
Stupid laws/rules/regulations come from people/politicians wanting to "do something:" do something for the children, the planet, etc. Many times these hastily conceived laws are bullied past people with the notion of being "reasonable" or "common sense." I wanted to puke every time I heard Obama saying he wanted "common sense" gun laws.

This is not the political forum so I will not go much further. But I believe a part of what has happened to our society is due to people not recognizing they were being bullied when an argument was made along the lines: "that is reasonable don't you think....?" Decent people have made "reasonable" concessions to our way of life to the point of "zero-tolerance" absurdity and our children, especially boys, now suffer for it.

Dutch 04-20-2013 06:49 PM

I love this thread, but at the same time I hate it. You guys are 100% right about every single point listed in this thread. It was a right of passage for a little boy to get his first pocket knife from his Grandfather or his dad. Times have changed.

But the part that breaks my heart, as bad as it all has gotten, I don't see that there is any way we will ever be able to change it back. God help us...please!

Blackpowdersmoke 04-21-2013 07:21 AM

Check this out...

http://news.yahoo.com/argument-over-...130031629.html

BPS

Dutch 04-21-2013 08:25 AM

Our country has lost its way.

sabotloader 04-21-2013 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by Dutch (Post 4052523)
Our country has lost its way.

I am old so I really remember this.... Paul Harvey warned decades ago, that we (the US) were becoming to civilized!

And the worst part is we, the common folk, not the politicians - the president, the senate, the house, the Republicans, or the Democrats are responsible.

We the common folk - vote these people in to represent us - why do we continue to do that if they are not?

The problem... Money!!! or as in the case of the Romans - the people with the power and the people with money or power are always looking for more, so they spend a lot of time determining politics...

Sorry just had to vent....


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