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llleonard4 04-07-2013 07:23 PM

can't remove breech plug
 
My father-in-law gave me a cva staghorn that he has not shot since 2000. I can't get the breech plug to move need suggestions on removing it and where to get new bolt/striker

Josmund 04-08-2013 03:01 AM

Welcome to the forum.

You can do a search as this topic has come up many times and there is lot's of advice in previous threads.

My first start ( after making sure it's not loaded ) would be to submerge it in boiling water, heat it up and then, place it in a vise for a good twist.

cayugad 04-08-2013 06:41 AM

Welcome to the forum.

Take the barrel out of the stock. On the bottom is the lug that supports the barrel. As mentioned.. put the breech plug in boiling water (not loaded) and get it real hot. A little dish soap in the water will help. Wear leather gloves as this barrel will get hot.

With the correct breech plug removal tool (My Staghorn had the slot head) when the barrel is hot, put that lug in a vice, it does not hurt to wrap that in leather or something to protect it from the jaws of the vice. Then with the tool in place and a pry mechanisom, tap that plug tool a little to shock the breech plug. Then apply steady pressure and normally they will turn out.

If that fails, take a spent 209 primer and put that in the plug. Then tape over that 209 and fill the barrel deeper then the plug with penetrating oil such as Marvel, Liquid Wrench, Kroll Oil, and let it sit... Normally over night.

The next morning dump the oil first to avoid a mess and again, with the vice, the tool, a some tapping, and steady pressure. When you get it loose, be very sure to check and clean the threads of the plug and the rifle with a good brush.

lemoyne 04-08-2013 08:08 AM

If its been in that long and what Cayugad suggested does not work then pour the barrel full of Evapo Rust [available at the auto parts store] and leave it for 24 hours.
If the problem is from 777 or Pyrodex the hot water may be all you need but if it is rust in it may be that you have to alternate the treatments.

Semisane 04-08-2013 08:25 AM

Great advice. You guys know your stuff.

JW 04-08-2013 09:14 AM

We ougt to pin this to the Help section????

Comments??

Dave.....JW

Semisane 04-08-2013 09:44 AM

Yep. .......

llleonard4 04-08-2013 12:54 PM

Is it threaded clockwise or counterclockwise

sabotloader 04-08-2013 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by JW (Post 4049448)
We ougt to pin this to the Help section????

Comments??

Dave.....JW

I would respectfully disagree a lot, but that is myself - this a ML question to be answered by ML shooters... Very few people actually look at the Help section.. probably one of the least used forums here.

I would have left it here where a wide variety of ML shooters would see it instead of a very limited few in the normal situation.

The are a lot of questions about ML's that appear over time in this forum, having multiple places to post many different things is counter-productive.

With the moved tag it does help... still think it was an ill advised move.

sorry...

deepcreek 04-08-2013 04:05 PM

x2 seems like muzzleloader talk!!!

txhunter58 04-08-2013 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by llleonard4 (Post 4049487)
Is it threaded clockwise or counterclockwise

the breechplug is a "bolt" and the rear of the barrel is the nut. Righty tighty, lefty loosey.

Or, when viewed from behind, turning it clockwise tightens, counterclockwise loosens.

Semisane 04-08-2013 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by sabotloader (Post 4049496)
I would respectfully disagree a lot, but that is myself - this a ML question to be answered by ML shooters... Very few people actually look at the Help section.. probably one of the least used forums here.

I would have left it here where a wide variety of ML shooters would see it instead of a very limited few in the normal situation.

The are a lot of questions about ML's that appear over time in this forum, having multiple places to post many different things is counter-productive.

With the moved tag it does help... still think it was an ill advised move.

sorry...

Well, there's an easy way to fix that. JW, why not copy and paste Cayugad's and Lemoyne's input into a new post titled "Removing A Stuck Breech Plug" in the Reference Forum, and return the original thread to the basic forum.

sabotloader 04-09-2013 07:08 AM

Here are a couple of the others..

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/blac...-any-help.html

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/blac...eech-plug.html

JW 04-09-2013 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by Semisane (Post 4049573)
Well, there's an easy way to fix that. JW, why not copy and paste Cayugad's and Lemoyne's input into a new post titled "Removing A Stuck Breech Plug" in the Reference Forum, and return the original thread to the basic forum.


Okay and will do good idea......and add Sabotloaders search too!

Thnaks Gents!

JW

Ps and I ain't never dun that before so am off to learn..and it was a success....
Semi that is a very good idea and Sabotloader topics will be left in the main forum as I now learned a new tool! Both great ideas!

I do watch the Reference forum and at time users post there looking for help. Those Topics/Threads I do move back to the Main BP forum as all are correct - it gets more 'eyes' on the topic much quicker!

To All" Any topics deemed worthy of Reference Capture I certainly will do for you gents. Just let me know.


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