Cayugad has got me sctatching
 

at an itch that I just can't decide on.

I curse him for showing the link for TVM and thanking him in the same breath. What's a guy to do? :rant::rock::confused:

I want a full stock rifle. It has to be left handed and that site has several.

My delimma. I can't decide on caliber. If I get it for hunting deer and bear I will lean towards the .54 mainly because I have the fixin's for a 54. I have several 50's but only one 54. If i get one just for small game and target work then I was thinking of a 32 or 36. I like to shoot most weekend when I can so one of the light calibers might be the way to go. A 45 might just solve everything. It would be legal for deer, a tad small for bear and ok for bunnies and grouse. If I get it for an ornament to pass down then caliber would not matter (but I can't see me buying a wall flower).

Decisions , decisions......:(

It all might be a moot point. I sent TVM an email to see if they shipped to Canada. We have no restrictions on flintlocks and last I checked neither does the USA. I;ll wait for their reply. Until then, damm that cayugad guy!!!:guiness:

HA

LOL Dave has a way of getting people interested in them smoke belching stinky coal burners.

I won"t even look I know me too good!! The rolling pin bump from the last gun just went down.

Thanks a lot guys this "itch is spreading faster than CWD
daddus

I showed the Missus a few pictures lamenting on what beautiful rifles they were. She sort of walked away with the laundry mumbling something. I told it would be my last. She all smart alecy and such replied "Hmmph, Ya right." rolled her eye's and left me in the basement.

I'll take that as an OK honey go get it!!!!:biggrin:

Man I love my own company!!!:guiness:

HA

I wonder what it is that makes us want to keep buying more guns?

Don't know but my boy's will be happy when they're all theirs.

HA

Funny you should put it that way. Not to get political but a couple of weeks ago I bought an AR for my daughter. She is only 6 so the rifle is going to be a safe queen until she is old enough for it. I sure hope she grows to enjoy muzzle loading! :)

I inherited quite a few Muzzle loaders. I am taking my grandchildren out this summer and we will shoot. Maybe I can spark some interest.

JW

I started with a .45 in 1977, thought it was the do all caliber...Load down for squirrels and up for deer...Didn't really work out that way...I used 40grs FFF Goex for squirrels and took head shots...Well a head shot works with any caliber...I moved up to 75grs FFF Goex for deer and it worked fine...

Then I had and encounter with a bear, a dang big black bear!!! I was considering a .50 and it took me just a few minutes to decide on a .54...I have no reqrets on caliber....I've used that .54 since 1990 and it does a job on whitetails...

The .45??? I ordered a barrel from Ed Rayle in .40 caliber and rebarreled her...I use 30grs FFF for squirrels and it's a hoot...I've also worked up a double ball load with 60grs that I'm playing with...So far, they are hitting on top of or very close to each other...

Here is my .40...I bought her in 1977 from Bob Watts, then in Atlanta...He is written up in Foxfire V...This stock design is better for the smaller calibers...





And here is my .54. more of the early Lancaster design with a straighter butt stock and wider butt plate...She weighs about 9 pounds, heavy enough that you don't feel the kick...




This is what a .530 patched ball did to an 8 pointer this year...I use 80grs FFF Goex...Range was about 40 yards... :)




This buck was killed on public lands the first day of rifle season...You should have seen the fellow I met on the way out with his 30-06 Remington semi-auto...He was dragging a button buck that might have field dressed out at 40 pounds...I had hung this deer, called him in and deboned him and loaded him him into my back pack and was coming out with him...I had cut off the antlers and had them strapped to my pack... :)

Well Monday I think I am going to upgrade the order I have in.. and go with a 42 inch swamped barrel in .58 if they can do it swamped. If not, .54 swamped. Other then that the Seiler lock, and the Lancaster stock still.

That one they had on the site, that Lancaster was sure a nice looking rifle. They had pictures of it on their facebook site. That's what got me looking in the first place.

Nothing like a fancy smoke belching rifle I say..

I second that decision!!!

Cayugad,
I took a good look at the one in their show room. When I blew up the picture of the hunters star the top tips of it were broken off.

I like NCHawkeye's train of thought on the .54.

I also like the simplicity of the Tenessee rifle. It would look real nice with just basic steel and ++Maple.

So I've narrowed it down to opposite ends of the spectrum. A Plain Jane Tennessee rifle with ++ Maple or Late Lancaster all dressed up for the ball.

I think if I get the Lancaster it will be in 36 just so I won't get tempted to drag it in the deer bush. The Tennessee in .54 becuase wood can always be refinished.

Hmmm, Time to think about this......

HA

Well and that was why I kind of changed my mind. I figured a swamped barrel, and fully decked out other then engraving, and to be honest, I do not like engraving.

The 42 inch barrel because then I know I will not be hauling it around in my woods. I am like you, I don't like to damage a beautiful rifle. One reason after seeing Semisane's dragon I was worried all season he might damage that.

While I hate engraving, I might ask them what it would cost to put my name on the Silver patch box. That way when it someday is passed down from my hands, to a relative.. they will know it was my rifle, made for me, and I will be watching them and how they care for it. Maybe even have a nasty curse put on it with my name, warning those that might think to ever mistreat it.
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I don't worry much about scratches and dings on a rifle.

Kinda` like me and my wife - a life lived properly is bound to cause a bit of good honest wear and leave a few marks. That gun belongs in the woods.

Certainly not disagreeing with your decision, but for me personally, it's been a long time since I've bought a gun that I couldn't hunt with. While I haven't hunted with all the guns I own, I know that if needed every gun I own (except a .22) is capable of providing food for me and the family. I guess it's just a quirk I have about guns. Personally I couldn't spend that kind of money on a gun and not be able to take it hunting.

You guys need to stop this teasing... It hurts!!!!! :nonono2:

Yea...it seems that way. But why is it that most of us learned very early on that if you should happen to fall with your rifle or shotgun in your hands that you manage to fall in a manner that places you on your back or your side with your gun above you and out of harms way?

BPS

Yeah, we all do that with guns. But if I'm walking with my wife and we both trip I always try to fall on top.

Nothing like a "soft" landing..eh?

BPS

Nor do I. Even my .22's are quite capable and have been hunted but it would seem counter productive to chase deer with a great big shiny gun. That was my thinking with getting a smaller caliber if I were to get the Lancaster all decked out. Still shoot it but not necessarily hunt it. Now the Tennessee in real nice wood and plain furnishings would hunt well without drawing undo attention.

Most dings I've put on my rifles other than my dogging guns has been going in and out of the safe or vehicles. Whenever I've fallen it was always Save the gun! Sacrifice the body.

HA

I can understand why people worry about dinging up a gun when hunting. If you saw some of my old center fire rifles... they might shoot real good, but they look like they have been through the devil. All scratched and dinged. But some of my other rifles are pristine. When I value a gun, I can take care of it. One reason I have walking guns. These are the ones that get dropped in creeks, I fall out of trees with, fall off mountains slopes, you know, the average stuff.

When I think of dings on a weapon I always think of my father. He had purchased a Browning Lite 12 Auto 5 gauge shotgun. A true Belgium Browning. He he tells the story of how they were so poor, he paid $10.00 a month to Montgomery Wards Department Store until it was paid off. He now laughs about it, but said my mother about hung him when he came home with it. But he put meat on the table for the entire family with it.

My Dad loves this shotgun. It is his pride and joy. It was the fancy model with the gold trigger, ivory bead, and all the engraving on the receiver, etc. He was so proud of that shotgun. And also very careful with it. In all the years he hunted with it, he NEVER PERSONALLY put a ding or scratch in the shotgun. And then one afternoon, while they were pheasant hunting, all the guns were leaning against a fence. They were eating lunch. And one of the other hunters WITHOUT PERMISSION saw that fancy shotgun, walked over and picked it up. As this hunter examined it, he was bragging to everyone what a perfect shotgun it was. Then he set it back down, and it slid on the fence and fell, hitting a rock. There is one ding in that shotgun on the fore stock. My father is a very peaceful man, but the story goes, he was about to beat a man to death that day and actually had to be restrained until they could calm him down. I now have that shotgun in my collection and take as much pride in it as my father did.

I am sure Huntaway.. when he purchases his rifle ( you really need that rifle. So does Semisane need one) he will hunt with it, but like me.. I might hunt with the Lancaster but not take it into places that I know would damage it in any way. There is hunting, and then there is hard hunting. That's what my Knight LK rifles are for. Or my White Bison...

Yep. :happy0001: Well put Dave. I sent them an email requesting a quotation.

HA