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mjac 01-14-2013 07:12 PM

Knight 209 primer conversion kit
 
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I am wondering about this Knight 209 conversion kit. Would I want to use it over a #11 primer on a MK85?

FYI, the kit pictured is SS. The kit I actually have is #900610, blue.

Semisane 01-14-2013 07:19 PM

I can't think of one good reason to do that.

WV Hunter 01-14-2013 07:31 PM

I'm not even sure what that is. ? What the heck are those brass things?
The 209 conversion I have for my mk's is a 209 plunger, and a 209 breechplug (that accepts the red disc w/209).

Depends on who you talk to whether they prefer #11's or 209's. I know the BH users prefer the 209 conversion.

1874sharpsshooter 01-14-2013 07:36 PM

I prefer the #11.

1874sharpsshooter 01-14-2013 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by WV Hunter (Post 4027492)
I'm not even sure what that is. ? What the heck are those brass things?
The 209 conversion I have for my mk's is a 209 plunger, and a 209 breechplug (that accepts the red disc w/209).

Depends on who you talk to whether they prefer #11's or 209's. I know the BH users prefer the 209 conversion.

I personally wouldn't shoot Blackhorn in a plunger gun , but that's just me .

Muley Hunter 01-14-2013 07:39 PM

I'm staying with the #11 caps to keep the crud ring down.

I've read using BH 209 in plunger guns is not a great idea. No?

cayugad 01-14-2013 08:52 PM

The gun is not meant to shoot BlackHorn 209 powder. And unless you intend to shoot pellets, I would suggest you stick with the #11 caps. Now I understand why each have their reasons for wanting to change. But in my three LK rifles, there is no way you could make me go to a 209 ignition.

mjac 01-15-2013 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by WV Hunter (Post 4027492)
I'm not even sure what that is. ? What the heck are those brass things?

Neither am I. Here is a pic of the directions on the back of the well wore packaging. Perhaps a early Knight 209 conversion?

The kit does not include another BP, uses a Red Hot nipple (per the directions), and the hammer has a raised hammer face.

Screwbolts 01-15-2013 04:10 AM

Good morning All,

IMHO, It is should be very obvious that the shown item is not a 209 conversion!!!!!!!!!

That is a conversion to use large rifle Primers, they are not considered 209s by any stretch of the imagination.

IMHO, I would personally not use any thing but #11s on a plunger gun.

Ken

mjac 01-15-2013 04:21 AM

Thanks Screwbolts. That clears it up. The kit came to me as advertized as a 209 conversion kit. Thus my wonderment.

WV Hunter 01-15-2013 04:55 AM


Originally Posted by Screwbolts (Post 4027532)

That is a conversion to use large rifle Primers, they are not considered 209s by any stretch of the imagination.


Ken

Ah, I've heard of those before....never seen one. I definitely wouldn't use that. Thanks for clearning that up!!


Re: 209's... I know alot of folks DO use the conversion (red discs) in the older plunger guns, most with 777 or RS and they like it. It essentially makes it like a disc extreme, and actually exactly like the new bighorns come unless you request the western kit.

I still use #11's as I don't really see any advantage of the 209 personally.

Muley Hunter 01-15-2013 06:38 AM

209 primers are easier to handle, and more waterproof than #11 cap, but with a capper the #11 caps aren't bad to deal with.

Nothing is set in stone with me, because i'm not sure what Tom is sending me. It should show up tomorrow, so we'll see.

WV Hunter 01-15-2013 07:31 AM

Either way they work fine Muley. You'll like that gun I'm sure. Its 6 of one half dozen of the other (to me). I guess some folks feel the 209 setup might give some advantages like you said, but overall its probably personal preference. Out of all the guys I know that shoot knight plunger guns, its probably 50/50 #11 to 209.

Muley Hunter 01-15-2013 07:58 AM

Compared to a sidelock. I would think an #11 cap will be pretty reliable in a plunger gun.

Gm54-120 01-15-2013 10:03 AM

Those LR primer conversion modules look interesting but i wonder if Knight quit offering them for a reason. In a sealed breach they would be fine but in a plunger gun they might pop off if the charge gets too high. They look like they would be heavier than a 209FPJ with a primer and possibly more dangerous if they flew off.


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