new to ML question re: TC Firehawk
#1
Spike
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Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 4
new to ML question re: TC Firehawk
I recently came into a TC Firehawk .50. Seems like a nice ML, my first. Im looking for advice on what others shoot for loads-pellets/powder and bullets conicals / sabot. looking fwd to reading up on this forum looks like a great source of info.
#2
Does your Firehawk have the 209 conversion kit, or is it a #11 caps system? If it is a cap system then NO PELLETS. Loose powder only. I would suggest getting a pound of Pyrodex RS. Start with some 240 grain XTP Hornady hollow points. If the bore is like my Black Diamond XR which is what the Firehawk turned into... they can be tight. So I would suggest some Harvester Crushed Rib sabots. Just start your testing with 80 grains of loose Pyrodex RS and a 240 grain XTP. See how that works for you.
#3
Spike
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Join Date: Nov 2012
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Does your Firehawk have the 209 conversion kit, or is it a #11 caps system? If it is a cap system then NO PELLETS. Loose powder only. I would suggest getting a pound of Pyrodex RS. Start with some 240 grain XTP Hornady hollow points. If the bore is like my Black Diamond XR which is what the Firehawk turned into... they can be tight. So I would suggest some Harvester Crushed Rib sabots. Just start your testing with 80 grains of loose Pyrodex RS and a 240 grain XTP. See how that works for you.
#4
You could also change your #11 nipple for a musket cap nipple. That is what I did to my Firehawk, years ago, and have no problems using substitute powders. It is an easy swap, and much less expensive than a 209 conversion.
#5
Typical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2008
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my buddy's got one with the 209 he's shooting 80 grains loose rs pyrodex and shockwaves,if i think right you can only use 2 pellets (100 grains) thats what my friend told me anyway...you may want to check that for safty reasons
#6
Before you get all crazy and start spending money to change the rifle, give the #11 caps a chance. As long as you shoot loose powder, that #11 cap will work fine. In fact, you will probably get a reduction in crud rings if you shoot Triple Seven powder.
I have numerous inline rifles and they are #11 caps systems. My Black Diamond XR which is basically the next generation of yours, has the 209 system as well as the #11. I use the #11 system. I never had a misfire, I get a reduction in blow back, I've never had to dig a 209 primer out of a breech plug, and overall I get just as good, or better accuracy with the #11 system. The only difference is I can not shoot pellets. And who wants to shoot pellets? Loose powder is cheaper and just as easy to use.
Give your rifle a try the way it was designed. I think with 80-90 grains of powder and say a 240 - 300 grain XTP in a good sabot, it will surprise you.
I have numerous inline rifles and they are #11 caps systems. My Black Diamond XR which is basically the next generation of yours, has the 209 system as well as the #11. I use the #11 system. I never had a misfire, I get a reduction in blow back, I've never had to dig a 209 primer out of a breech plug, and overall I get just as good, or better accuracy with the #11 system. The only difference is I can not shoot pellets. And who wants to shoot pellets? Loose powder is cheaper and just as easy to use.
Give your rifle a try the way it was designed. I think with 80-90 grains of powder and say a 240 - 300 grain XTP in a good sabot, it will surprise you.
#7
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 6,585
The only good reason for going to 209 primers is switching to Blackhorn and you should NOT do that with that rifle. I like musket caps, the #11 will work just fine with all the proper powders but I like that bit of extra for hunting.
#9
You have to change out the #11 nipple for a musket cap nipple. But before you do that, let them #11 caps have a shot. I think you are going to like them.