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.454 10-25-2012 06:17 PM

Sabotloader, good point . One should never put a beautiful animal as big as elk in danger of being lost wounded because a bullet was used that was built for smaller game. We all know that the .430 is capable but not appropriate. It's about respect for what we hunt. thanks for pointing that out.

.454 10-26-2012 03:47 AM

It was asked was I referring to the hand gun or the partition. I did not think the .430 300 nosler came in a partition so yes I was referring to the sport hand gun. I would think too that the .451 300 nosler would be an excellent bullet as well.

ronlaughlin 10-26-2012 05:49 AM

This Nosler Partition Bullet is the one i myself would use for elk. The only XTP i would consider using for elk is the 300g XTP mag.

sabotloader 10-26-2012 06:11 AM


Originally Posted by .454 (Post 3995746)
It was asked was I referring to the hand gun or the partition. I did not think the .430 300 nosler came in a partition so yes I was referring to the sport hand gun. I would think too that the .451 300 nosler would be an excellent bullet as well.

Oh! believe me it is...

At one time they did make 44 cal Nosler Partitions.. 250 & 300 grains. I still have some that i orinally purchased thinking a higher BC was the answer for everything.

This was popped last week with a .452-300 Deep Curl at 100 yards by a friend of mine. But next year we/he are converting the the .458-300 Bloodline


.454 10-26-2012 07:30 AM

Sabotloader, Thats a nice young elk. i am guessing but it appears to be around 400 pounds but a may be way off. That Deep Curl bullet is an awesome design. Iam thankful that I found this forum or I would have never considered it and to me I think it's one of the best. Nice post. You don't use much blachhorn so I am guessing again that you were using FFG 110 grains.

.454 10-26-2012 07:34 AM

Ron- I mentioned that the Deep Curl .452 300 is one of the best But most likely I would think that the 300 Nosler partition is the best. I think the mushroom on this bullet looks better than a Barns.

sabotloader 10-26-2012 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by .454 (Post 3995836)
Ron- I mentioned that the Deep Curl .452 300 is one of the best But most likely I would think that the 300 Nosler partition is the best. I think the mushroom on this bullet looks better than a Barns.

The Nosler Partition is a far stronger bullet than is the Deep Curl.

These are some pic - back when i was uing the Nosler... 451-260 for deer and 458-300 for elk...

The Bullet:



The animal





The 451-260



The animal



The bullet pictures show the max expansion of a partition. Then from this add the hydrostatic shock and the continued penetration of the bullet. All of this designed around the fact that over expansion slows the projectile rapidly and reduces penetration.

Gm54-120 10-26-2012 10:14 AM

The only problem i had with both .451 Partitions were unexplained fliers. It wasn't terrible but it was enough to annoy me.

ronlaughlin 10-26-2012 11:23 AM

That 'flier' thing happens to me with all bullets; i too find it annoying. In my case it seems like the issue may be with the trigger puller.

ronlaughlin 10-26-2012 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by sabotloader (Post 3995907)
The Nosler Partition is a far stronger bullet than is the Deep Curl.........................

Well, i think i strongly agree..................i think. The Nosler does indeed penetrate deeper. The Nosler seems to have caused massive amounts of 'shock', when one examines dead critter.

The photo shows a pile of bullet that were found on the hillside behind the target where i usually shoot. Deep Curl on the left. Nosler on the right. Only 2 Nosler; don't shoot them much, especially at paper. No XTP shown, but every XTP i have found has been found in pieces, with the lead separated from the jacket.





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