The new 50 caliber Knight Mountaineer Ultra-Lite
09-23-2012, 07:49 AM
#41
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Colorado
Posts: 9,557
Not true. I wish it was. I'm fine with a 290gr Barnes sabot, and i'd love to use it.
09-23-2012, 07:57 AM
#43
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Colorado
Posts: 9,557
Ok, lets look at this from the DOW's angle.
It says you can use a 50cal gun for elk in ML season. Since they specify that it has to be a full bore bullet, and not a sabot. They are basically saying that you need to use a 50cal gun with a 50cal bullet.
This restriction doesn't change when you hunt the rifle season. Even though sabots are legal in rifle season. The 50cal bullet restriction doesn't change for hunting elk.
It doesn't matter if you don't see it this way. That's how the DOW means it. I was hoping this wasn't true, and that's why I called them. I'm simply passing on to you guys what they said.
The bottom line is always what they say. Even if you don't agree.
It says you can use a 50cal gun for elk in ML season. Since they specify that it has to be a full bore bullet, and not a sabot. They are basically saying that you need to use a 50cal gun with a 50cal bullet.
This restriction doesn't change when you hunt the rifle season. Even though sabots are legal in rifle season. The 50cal bullet restriction doesn't change for hunting elk.
It doesn't matter if you don't see it this way. That's how the DOW means it. I was hoping this wasn't true, and that's why I called them. I'm simply passing on to you guys what they said.
The bottom line is always what they say. Even if you don't agree.
09-23-2012, 08:05 AM
#44
Guest
Posts: n/a
Ok, lets look at this from the DOW's angle.
It says you can use a 50cal gun for elk in ML season. Since they specify that it has to be a full bore bullet, and not a sabot. They are basically saying that you need to use a 50cal gun with a 50cal bullet.
This restriction doesn't change when you hunt the rifle season. Even though sabots are legal in rifle season. The 50cal bullet restriction doesn't change for hunting elk.
It doesn't matter if you don't see it this way. That's how the DOW means it. I was hoping this wasn't true, and that's why I called them. I'm simply passing on to you guys what they said.
The bottom line is always what they say. Even if you don't agree.
It says you can use a 50cal gun for elk in ML season. Since they specify that it has to be a full bore bullet, and not a sabot. They are basically saying that you need to use a 50cal gun with a 50cal bullet.
This restriction doesn't change when you hunt the rifle season. Even though sabots are legal in rifle season. The 50cal bullet restriction doesn't change for hunting elk.
It doesn't matter if you don't see it this way. That's how the DOW means it. I was hoping this wasn't true, and that's why I called them. I'm simply passing on to you guys what they said.
The bottom line is always what they say. Even if you don't agree.
09-23-2012, 08:06 AM
#45
Typical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Ohio
Posts: 861
I don't understand why they would allow sabots during rifle season then and not just keep it at conicals. Okay yeah if you have a .54 cal you can use sabots but that seems to be the minority really and a very small one. So small you would think it would just be easier to just keep it at conicals.
09-23-2012, 08:10 AM
#46
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Idaho
Posts: 11,703
Sorry, you are correct on that point... if it is a Muzzleloader the caliber must be a 50 cal to hunt elk, and the bullet must weigh 210 grain. It does not say the projectile must be 50 cal.
And you are alos correct in that the 195 Barnes would not be legal for elk because it is to light by rule. It would be OK for deer.
And you are alos correct in that the 195 Barnes would not be legal for elk because it is to light by rule. It would be OK for deer.
09-23-2012, 08:14 AM
#47
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 2,037
Sorry, you are correct on that point... if it is a Muzzleloader the caliber must be a 50 cal to hunt elk, and the bullet must weigh 210 grain. It does not say the projectile must be 50 cal.
And you are alos correct in that the 195 Barnes would not be legal for elk because it is to light by rule. It would be OK for deer.
And you are alos correct in that the 195 Barnes would not be legal for elk because it is to light by rule. It would be OK for deer.
09-23-2012, 08:14 AM
#48
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Colorado
Posts: 9,557
I thought the bullet was illegal, and when I checked. It wasn't. Do you know how many tickets are handed out from hunters not understanding the laws?
Like I said already. Ignorance will not get you out of a ticket. Grouse can't even claim ignorance. I told him what the DOW said, and he's going to come here and break the law. He might worry about being turned in, and stay legal. Lots of guys read this forum who are Colorado residents who don't like a non resident coming here and breaking our laws. He's going to use a bullet we can't? That doesn't go over well.
09-23-2012, 08:15 AM
#49
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Idaho
Posts: 11,703
Ok, lets look at this from the DOW's angle.
It says you can use a 50cal gun for elk in ML season. Since they specify that it has to be a full bore bullet, and not a sabot. They are basically saying that you need to use a 50cal gun with a 50cal bullet.
This restriction doesn't change when you hunt the rifle season. Even though sabots are legal in rifle season. The 50cal bullet restriction doesn't change for hunting elk.
It doesn't matter if you don't see it this way. That's how the DOW means it. I was hoping this wasn't true, and that's why I called them. I'm simply passing on to you guys what they said.
The bottom line is always what they say. Even if you don't agree.
It says you can use a 50cal gun for elk in ML season. Since they specify that it has to be a full bore bullet, and not a sabot. They are basically saying that you need to use a 50cal gun with a 50cal bullet.
This restriction doesn't change when you hunt the rifle season. Even though sabots are legal in rifle season. The 50cal bullet restriction doesn't change for hunting elk.
It doesn't matter if you don't see it this way. That's how the DOW means it. I was hoping this wasn't true, and that's why I called them. I'm simply passing on to you guys what they said.
The bottom line is always what they say. Even if you don't agree.