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1874sharpsshooter 09-23-2012 05:17 AM


Originally Posted by ronlaughlin (Post 3981421)
I sure hope not, because if so, i will be $1000 poorer, and own one.

You and me both . :s4:

Grouse45 09-23-2012 05:23 AM


Originally Posted by Muley Hunter (Post 3981430)
What bullet are you planning on shooting in Colorado?

Probably the 250grn Bloodline.

Muley Hunter 09-23-2012 05:38 AM


Originally Posted by Grouse45 (Post 3981441)
Probably the 250grn Bloodline.

This is a sabot? From my thread you should know you can't use less then a 50cal bullet. It's the problem I ran into when thinking about using a 50 cal sabot. No way to do it.

Maybe the 52 cal Knight makes? Would that be a 50cal bullet?

Grouse45 09-23-2012 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by Muley Hunter (Post 3981444)
This is a sabot? From my thread you should know you can't use less then a 50cal bullet. It's the problem I ran into when thinking about using a 50 cal sabot. No way to do it.

Maybe the 52 cal Knight makes? Would that be a 50cal bullet?

Your telling me I can't use a sabot in rifle season?

flounder33 09-23-2012 06:18 AM

From the Colorado Game Laws

3. MUZZLELOA DING RIFLES
& SMOO THBO RE MUSKE TS
a. Only legal muzzleloaders allowed in muzzleloading
seasons.
b. In-line muzzleloaders are legal.
c. Must be single-barrel that fires a single round-ball or
conical projectile.
d. To hunt deer, pronghorn or bear, they must be minimum
of .40 caliber.
e. To hunt elk or moose, they must be minimum of .50
caliber.
f. From .40 caliber to .50 caliber, bullets must weigh minimum 170 grains.
g. If greater than .50 caliber, bullets must weigh minimum 210 grains.
h. Shotshell primers are legal.
i. Pelletized powder systems prohibited in muzzleloading seasons.
j. Cannot be loaded from the breech in muzzleloading seasons.
k. Only open or iron sights allowed in muzzleloading seasons. Fiber optics
and fluorescent paint incorporated into or on open or iron sights are
legal. Scopes or any sighting device using artificial light, batteries and
electronic gear are prohibited during muzzleloading seasons.
l. Sabots are prohibited in muzzleloading seasons. Cloth patches are not
sabots.
m. Smokeless powder prohibited in muzzleloading seasons. Black powder
and black-powder substitutes are legal.
n. Electronic or battery-powered devices cannot be incorporated into or

attached to muzzleloader during muzzleloading season.


It says sabots are prohibited during muzzleloader season so I would think you would be fine during rifle season for sure.

Muley Hunter 09-23-2012 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by Grouse45 (Post 3981454)
Your telling me I can't use a sabot in rifle season?

I called the DOW and I wanted to be sure I was clear. The normal restrictions for muzzleloader season don't carry over to the rifle season except one. The 50cal minimum for elk also applies for using a ML in rifle season.

You can use a scope, pellets and sabots. Even smokeless powder in rifle season, but your bullet can's be smaller than 50cal.

I know it's stupid, but that's the law.

Grouse45 09-23-2012 06:50 AM

The rules clearly say you can use a 50cal Muzzleloader and a 250grn Saboted bullet in rifle season. Thanks Flounder33

chaded 09-23-2012 06:51 AM

I'm not sure of what combination there is that allows you to shoot a .50 cal bullet with a sabot?

1874sharpsshooter 09-23-2012 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by chaded (Post 3981478)
I'm not sure of what combination there is that allows you to shoot a .50 cal bullet with a sabot?

a .54 Knight MK 85 would allow you to shoot a 50 cal bullet in a sabot. .

I wonder how them 50 cal Lehigh DOA bullets would shoot in a .54. I might have to try them sometime and see and if they would work in a sabot.

Gm54-120 09-23-2012 06:54 AM

If i didn't already have a NULA i would really consider the Knight Ultra Light. Mine is actually a 26" barrel and has a slightly heavier contour than the standard Melvin spec build. You cant really compare the two since Melvin will build them to your specs including LOP and the other options like a Jewell trigger.

Im still in the market for a faster twist 45 that weighs close to my NULA. My Savage Pacnor 45 is a heavy beast but it convinced me a 1-22 twist works great. Its just a terrible platform for a Ultra Light build.

BTW i love that scope base. I think ive seen it somewhere before. :D


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