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MountainDevil54 09-17-2012 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by sabotloader (Post 3978700)
Once again you are off base MD - That is not true - all of the new Knigts come with a BH compatible plug.

the plastic jacket plugs give knight shooters pure hell with bh209, thats why lehigh had to make the plugs for knight.

Grouse45 09-17-2012 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by Muley Hunter (Post 3978696)
How much is the Bone Collector? That would be an equal model to the MR.

Optima would be in the Triumph class.

CVA does not have any ML in the class of a Triumph. Another fact not opinion.

Grouse45 09-17-2012 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by MountainDevil54 (Post 3978710)
the plastic jacket plugs give knight shooters pure hell with bh209, thats why lehigh had to make the plugs for knight.

Your right, all the new plugs are made by Lehigh for Knight.

sbuff 09-17-2012 11:51 AM

I wonder how many times one could send a barrel back to CVA for chipping , peeling or flaking of the finish. For me and this is ONLY me , if it happenend once I would move on to a different model and or brand.Between the shipping and time involved with sending it back I would find it very upsetting.
Steve

sabotloader 09-17-2012 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by MountainDevil54 (Post 3978710)
the plastic jacket plugs give knight shooters pure hell with bh209, thats why lehigh had to make the plugs for knight.

So this is your complaint... and your reasoning why Lehigh is making plugs for Knight. It has nothing to do with the fact that Dave and Tom designed/produced a quality plug that happens to work very well in a Knight. It has nothing to do with the fact that the current Knight breech plug built by Lehigh for Knight was originally designed with the specifications that would even allow it to successfully shoot smokeless powder then brought to the ML world. In it has nothing to do with the fact that Knight recognized this as an advancement and contracted Lehigh to provide them will BP's for all their rifles.

And you are saying that FPJ's like this will not shoot BH from a Knight - I think that is what you are saying...



Well I would have to say that with new FPJ's and a standard OLD Knight FPJ breech plug it will effectively shoot BH in a hunting situation. It is dirty in the breech and the BP flash channel should be cleaned every 10-12 shots, but it will definitely shoot BH...



I have not tested the new FPJ plug with BH or any other powder, but I would be willing to bet you the new one (built by Lehigh) would work better than the old. So yes - you can shoot BH in a Knight using FPJ's. For me it is not the best situation but for others they make it work for them very well.

So most of what you indicate in your statement above is not totally correct and is probably a result of your reading and retaining what you want to retain.

MountainDevil54 09-17-2012 12:12 PM

others have posted the same question about the jackets and even you were stumped when the gun still would not fire with bh209. If it works for you, doesnt always mean it will work for others.

Grouse45 09-17-2012 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by sabotloader (Post 3978723)
So this is your complaint... and your reasoning why Lehigh is making plugs for Knight. It has nothing to do with the fact that Dave and Tom designed/produced a quality plug that happens to work very well in a Knight. It has nothing to do with the fact that the current Knight breech plug built by Lehigh for Knight was originally designed with the specifications that would even allow it to successfully shoot smokeless powder then brought to the ML world. In it has nothing to do with the fact that Knight recognized this as an advancement and contracted Lehigh to provide them will BP's for all their rifles.

And you are saying that FPJ's like this will not shoot BH from a Knight - I think that is what you are saying...



Well I would have to say that with new FPJ's and a standard OLD Knight FPJ breech plug it will effectively shoot BH in a hunting situation. It is dirty in the breech and the BP flash channel should be cleaned every 10-12 shots, but it will definitely shoot BH...



I have not tested the new FPJ plug with BH or any other powder, but I would be willing to bet you the new one (built by Lehigh) would work better than the old. So yes - you can shoot BH in a Knight using FPJ's. For me it is not the best situation but for others they make it work for them very well.

So most of what you indicate in your statement above is not totally correct and is probably a result of your reading and retaining what you want to retain.

The old concave fpj breech plug would shoot BH209 all day long in any temperature. The domed/cleaner plug would not reliably do it in my tests. The old concave plug was so good you didnt need to clean it all with BH209.

Grouse45 09-17-2012 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by MountainDevil54 (Post 3978724)
others have posted the same question about the jackets and even you were stumped when the gun still would not fire with bh209. If it works for you, doesnt always mean it will work for others.

Knight has always had a 100% reliable fpj breech plug. They also had the domed one that was not reliable for BH209. When both these plugs were made, BH209 didnt even exist.

Muley Hunter 09-17-2012 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by Grouse45 (Post 3978711)
CVA does not have any ML in the class of a Triumph. Another fact not opinion.

Might have some value if you knew what you were talking about.

Muley Hunter 09-17-2012 12:29 PM

A lot of blowback on those little red thingy's.


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