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sabotloader 08-25-2012 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by cayugad (Post 3964766)
I believe the Bison has a slightly smaller bore then my U mag. The .451 only has the short barrel and that thing is just deadly accurate. Does the Lightening have a bull barrel also?

yep 22" of all bull... and the any on the recieving end knows it right away...








flounder33 08-25-2012 05:05 PM

Pete, aint that a tapered barrel on the lightning?

cayugad 08-25-2012 05:14 PM

That is some outstanding shooting with a peep sight. And all I ever heard about that model rifle Sabotloader is how well they shot.

sabotloader 08-25-2012 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by flounder33 (Post 3964787)
Pete, aint that a tapered barrel on the lightning?

Yes, it is slightly tapered but it is a very thick barrel... I forgot who made these barrels... Doc told me when I called him but I have lost it... but I think I might be able to find it...

Found it... It is a Wilson...

Doc's words...The rarest WHITE rifle, so rare I didn't have one in my collection for a while. Only 2000 were made in 1994 and all were sold by 1995. Wilson made the barreled actions and did such a great job that no Lightning rifle has ever been returned because of accuracy problems. I have never had one traded in, ever!
The barrel and action were one piece in one inch diameter, the only caliber was .504 with a slightly tapered 22 inch barrel , the lightweight SG-series action (SG means Small G) was a mirror image of the Whitetail and Bison actions only with the cocking handle on the right and the trigger safety on the left. Internal parts were otherwise the same as all other G-Series rifles except the hammer, which the idiot machinists made slightly larger. Stocks were lightweight Birch, painted black with a rubber recoil pad. Weight was right at 6 lbs. I never saw an inaccurate one.

cayugad 08-25-2012 06:26 PM



As you can see, the Bison has a bull barrel.

cayugad 08-25-2012 06:27 PM

I think they have a Wilson Barrel as well. They were the bottom of the line G series rifle. If White actually had a bottom of the line.

1874sharpsshooter 08-25-2012 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by cayugad (Post 3964813)
I think they have a Wilson Barrel as well. They were the bottom of the line G series rifle. If White actually had a bottom of the line.

Bottom of the line Whites are better than some Top of the line guns on the market today, as far as function and accuracy, as well as durability and dependabity goes. My opinion of course ,

cayugad 08-25-2012 08:03 PM

While they are older technology, and therefore not as appealing to many, White rifles were made with very high quality parts. Also the innovation of their twist and rifling cuts, made them the accurate shooters we see today. If one can over look the limitations of the rifle reference powder and ignition choices, when they shoot one, all that seems to no longer matter.

flounder33 08-26-2012 06:44 AM

From Doc's site on the Bison:


An original production WHITE Bison rifle. Bison rifles may be found with any of the stocks found on the Whitetail. All were the best bargain in muzzleloading, being accurate and hard-hitting with reduced recoil. Stock design was functionally elegant.
THIS WHITE BISON WAS BASED ON THE G-SERIES ACTION, SAME AS IN THE WHITETAIL, AND WAS PROBABLY THE MOST STABLE RIFLE THAT WHITE EVER PRODUCED. FEW OF THEM EVER COME BACK, PROBABLY BECAUSE OF THE STRAIGHT BULL BARREL. THEY ARE ALMOST ALWAYS SUPER ACCURATE. ODDLY, THEY WERE THE NEXT TO CHEAPEST RIFLE PRODUCED (the White-Lightning was the least expensive), AND WERE A REAL VALUE FOR THE MONEY. FEATURES ARE SIMILAR TO THE WHITE WHITETAIL EXCEPT FOR THE HEAVIER BARREL AND DOVETAILED SIGHTS. THE REAR SIGHT IS A WILLIAMS ADJUSTABLE, THE FRONT IS A BRASS BEAD. THERE AREN'T MANY AROUND AND WHITE MUZZLELOADING SEES ONLY A FEW.

sabotloader 08-26-2012 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by cayugad (Post 3964813)
I think they have a Wilson Barrel as well. They were the bottom of the line G series rifle. If White actually had a bottom of the line.

I think you are right - the crown on your barrel looks like the one on mine, so I am thinking Wilson also.


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