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ronlaughlin 08-13-2012 11:07 AM

Clearance Sale Omega
 
This rifle i purchased because it was reduced for clearance, and had a wood stock. At the time i had no use for it, but the wood stock made the purchase necessary. Recently i realized i needed this rifle, because an X7 was ruined. The day before yesterday a scope was mounted, and yesterday i took it up and kinda zeroed the scope. This morning the target was first located at 200 yard, and 2 shots taken from the clean cold barrel. The load was 110g BH, 300g Deep Curl, crush rib sabot, W209 primer.









It seemed prudent to photograph the target, so i walked about 500 yard to and from the target. Temperature was 54*, and it was a nice walk, even wearing shorts and t-shirt.















The rings are quick release so for to exchange scopes easily. For muzzy season the scope will need to be 1X. Four more shots were taken. The first shot was a way right, but fourth, and fifth were in the black. Six i wanted to be in the black, but no. When finished here the temperature was 53*


The 200 yard shooting was satisfactory, so i drove about 4 mile away, and set up a 300 yard target. By this time a breeze had begun. It seemed kinda foolish to try 300 yard shooting because of the breeze, and because the bullets would have slowed to near the speed of sound, but i gave it a try. Well, well, the wind pushed the bullet far enough over so it hit the steel frame of the target holder, and knocked the whole shebang over.







Photos show the bullet after hitting steel @ 300 yard.









Then i drove back to where i had been shooting before, and shot twice at 100 yard.










A move was made to 200 yard, and 3 shots taken. The breeze was left to right.









When the rifle was cleaned for the initial shooting a couple day ago, i didn't replace the new breech plug. The new plug was exchanged with one that had worn at both ends. The worn flash hole was replaced with a stainless vent liner, and the flame cut primer seat was cut deeper, and now an o-ring is used.












The last photo shows the rifle with a 1X scope just now mounted. And now you know what the next task will be.





cayugad 08-13-2012 11:29 AM

nice rifle and great shooting. That Omega is a good gun from all I have read. I personally don't own one though.

SHulion 08-13-2012 11:44 AM

Got to love those Omegas. Mine really likes 110 gr of BH209, Winchester 209 primers and about anything I stuff down the barrel. I've been going to put a thumbhole laminate stock on it and top it with a 4x12 or 4x14 scope just to do some long distance shooting. Now it looks like I'll have to get this done a little sonner. Thanks and great shooting.

1874sharpsshooter 08-13-2012 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by cayugad (Post 3960096)
nice rifle and great shooting. That Omega is a good gun from all I have read. I personally don't own one though.

Now that's unacceptable, fortunately for you I have an idea:D:D

Don Field 08-13-2012 12:41 PM

I have a 50 Cal Omega that shoots Buffalo Bullets "old" 375 Gr Boat Tail Spitzer/Sabot bullet really well, under 1/2 inch at 100 yards, but I am nearly out of them. I need some help locating some of them that I could buy or trade for.

Don Field 08-13-2012 12:47 PM

I found that 54 cal pellets will fit and work fine in 50 cal rifles. The benefit to me was that they come in 60 gr pellets. when I loaded 3x50 grain pellets my accuracy suffered to the point that the increase in velocity was useless. The increase from 2x60 grain pellets was substantial with virtually no increase in group size.

josh...just josh 08-13-2012 01:00 PM

I have that exact same gun (no doubt purchased on the same clearance) and aside from stock/action fit issues that I need to take care of, it is the best muzzy that I have ever had!

ronlaughlin 08-13-2012 04:05 PM

Seems, i do recall you purchasing the exact same rifle i did. You sold your Mountaineer to do so i think. My clearance Omega does shoot straighter than my Mountaineer, and it is shorter, lighter, and not as pretty.

gregrn43 08-13-2012 08:12 PM

Thats a good looking rifle not to mention and fine shooter, congratulations

SHulion 08-14-2012 03:50 AM

Ron, what size o-ring is that and where did you get it. I want to give that a try in my Omega. Did you notice a big difference in blow back? How long do they usually last?

josh...just josh 08-14-2012 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by ronlaughlin (Post 3960182)
Seems, i do recall you purchasing the exact same rifle i did. You sold your Mountaineer to do so i think. My clearance Omega does shoot straighter than my Mountaineer, and it is shorter, lighter, and not as pretty.

I did sell my Moutaineer before I bought my Omega; I agree that the Omega is more accurate and lighter. The build quality is no where near the Moutaineer, but I think that it makes up for it with it with it's ease of carry and cleaning. Great gun! The closest that I have ever been to completely content with a ML'er

ronlaughlin 08-14-2012 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by SHulion (Post 3960281)
Ron, what size o-ring is that and where did you get it. I want to give that a try in my Omega. Did you notice a big difference in blow back? How long do they usually last?

The o-ring used was long ago identified by Busta, and can be found on this page:

http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/118/3490/=iuirh7

It is the one with the 4.5mm ID, # 9262K611



Using these o-ring results in zero blow back. The reason i use these o-ring, is because eventually all of the breech plugs in my rifles suffer flame cutting of the primer seat. This allows for more and more and more blow back. What is done then, is the flame cut is removed by drilling the primer seat deeper, by using a drill i have ground much flatter than standard. This makes the bottom of the primer pocket smooth again, but now the primer isn't long enough to make a seal. The o-ring replaces the drilled away steel with a flexible material that makes an excellent seal. Generally, the primer pocket is made about 0.020" deeper. The o-ring is about 0.040" thick. The o-ring being a tad thicker than the amount of material removed compresses to make a 'perfect' seal. Using these o-ring results in zero blow back.

My guess is you won't be able to use these o-ring in your Omega without somehow increasing the headspace. Either by unscrewing and shimming the firing pin bushing, or by drilling the primer pocket deeper. However, the CVA rifles i own can utilize these o-ring without doing any work.

A long range session for me is about 30 shots. The o-ring easily survives that many shots. A short range session might be 10 shots, after a short session the o-ring can be used again more than once. These o-ring seem to 'evaporate' as shots are taken. When they become 0.035" thick or less, i quit using them. I don't actually count how many shots they are good for, but i would guess about 50.

Myself, i like using these o-ring. Because they make a perfect seal, the primer seat will never again flame cut. The breech plug will last and last with no way for it to be damaged. The vent liner can be replaced when it wears after perhaps 200 shots, and the o-ring can be replaced every 30 shots or so. Cost of the o-ring is less than a nickel.

ronlaughlin 08-15-2012 09:46 AM

Yesterday, took the rifle out; shot at 25 yard and adjusted the 1X scope to the paper center. Then moved to 100 yard.










The first 2 shots hit right and low. The scope was adjusted left and up. Three more shots were taken. The scope was adjusted down 2 clicks, and the elevation dial was loosened removed and zeroed.









Today, the target was set at 200 yard, and 2 shots taken from a squeaky clean cold barrel, after the elevation dial was twisted up 5 1/2 moa.














After just 2 shots the wind started, so target shooting was ceased, however there was a cheezit box in the truck, so it was filled with water and set out at 220 yard. The elevation dial was raised another moa, and shots were taken at the box.














The first shot was high, so i guessed i was holding too high, and as much as possible held lower. The thing is, the cross hair of the one power scope completely obscured the box.









The second shot was low, and the box fell over. A trip was made to the box with more water; it was refilled and stood.







The third shot was low, but the box didn't fall over and held most of the water. The box did roll some, but stood.














The fourth shot hit low and right on the box, managed to empty the box, and ruined it's ability to hold water. Upon returning home a ballistic calculation was made for a 220 yard zero.









It appear my guesstimate of elevation setting was 1 click low.

cayugad 08-15-2012 10:03 AM

that is some great shooting for a 1x scope. I guess I am going to have to get some of them Gold Dot Speer 300 grain.. if they are ever in stock somewhere.

ronlaughlin 08-15-2012 10:08 AM

Myself, i usually purchase them bullet from Graf or Powder Valley. Right now they both appear to be out of stock.

cayugad 08-15-2012 05:05 PM

Do you place a plastic bag inside the box, then fill the bag with water? The reason I ask is, I did that today with a cereal box. I put a plastic shopping bag in it, filled it with water and then became a cereal killer. It was an impressive geyser when that 300 grain XTP hit the box at 50 yards, DEAD CENTER. Actually if I was not such a big chicken, I would put my camera down there and just let it run and see if I could catch all that. You must have a remote on and off on your camera or else you burn off a lot of footage to get them geyser pictures on video.

ronlaughlin 08-15-2012 06:09 PM

What i do is pour the water into the wax paper liner of them box. To make picture and video, i put the camera on a tripod, and set it for video, and start it. It say it will make 22 minute 12 second of video. Then i go to the place where the rifle is, knowing i have 20 minute or so to make a hit. Once in a while i run out of 'film'. Mostly, the box/jug is smucked before 20 minute goes by.

That is cool you hit the box dead center. That usually results in a great geyser! One reason i like to video the smuck of the box is so i can see what happens clearly. Usually i don't get to see the geyser when doing the shooting, but now and again i clearly see the bullet hit the box, and that is great fun.

The video is recorded onto an SD card. Yes indeed a lot of footage is taken. The Quicktime program is used to crop the video a way way smaller than what was taken blasting them box. To have the ability to shorten the video cost me money. The video and/or photo can be saved into my computer or erased. Either way, in the morning, when i head out to shoot the SD card is usually blank. Sometimes i forget the camera. Sometimes i forget bullets. Sometimes i go without powder. Once i left without rifle, but noticed within 3 block.

ronlaughlin 08-16-2012 01:09 PM

This morning it was 47* here after dawn, and there was zero breeze. A trip to the hills became a necessity. Shot 5 shots into the same target that was punched yesterday from 200 yard. The holes dyed green were made yesterday.







Then i decided to see if i could shoot somewhere around 250 yard, which i consider the maximum range when shooting 300g bullet from a muzzle loader not using smokeless powder. A box i had with, was filled with water, and i walked away heading out to shoot the rifle, however the box blew over, and all the water went away. Then the jug was refilled with water from a spring fed tank, and it was set out to be the target, instead of the box. The range ended up being 256 yard. The elevation dial was turned up 9 1/2 moa.








At the shot, i was able to see the bullet hit the jug, and that was cool.























THE VIDEO

WOODTICK49 08-17-2012 05:07 PM

that is TOTALLY AWESOME!!!!!

cayugad 08-17-2012 11:47 PM

It really is... making a splash is so cool. When we were young we used to take a stump. Take a can of soda pop and shake the devil out of it. Then set that on the stump. Then balance a chunk of firewood on top of the soda pop can. Then we'd back off and shoot that soda can with a 30-06. The can would of course explode and the trick was to set the chunk of wood on top of the stump without it falling over.

I will have to get brave and set out the camera on video and see if I can make a movie of a box. I have a program called Picasa3 that will let you adjust the part of the video you want, splice out the other and then just save the part you want as a wav file I believe it is.


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