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bronko22000 04-21-2012 04:07 AM

I should have known better.
 
Went in to a different gun shop yesterday. One I go to when I need reloading supplies because his prices are the lowest for powder, bullets, etc. He didn't have what I needed so I had to place an order for next week. But then I got to looking on the gun rack. Something caught my eye. I am a sucker for old lever rifles. Within minutes I had my hands on a Puma M92, silver receiver and forend tip with a nice walnut stock, 24" blued octagon barrel, full length magazine, .44 mag. Checked the price tag and asked for the paperwork to start filling it out. I have about 1000 44s loaded up with light loads and lead bullets which will be perfect for playing with this neat rifle. Can't wait to take it out tomorrow. And I just may get my over powder wads in the mail today for the .54 flinter. So I may get to shoot both tomorrow.

cayugad 04-21-2012 06:38 AM

When you can.. post a picture of that. My friend bought a Henry Lever Rifle in .44 mag. What a nice rifle. And very accurate also.

Muley Hunter 04-21-2012 06:49 AM

I love the lever guns too. Lets see her.

bronko22000 04-21-2012 01:05 PM

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ask and you shall receive. I don't know why the receiver looks blued. I guess its from the flash on the camera. But its actually silver as is the forend tip and butt plate.

WV Hunter 04-21-2012 01:24 PM

What a sucker!! :D

Looks nice, good luck with her!

Muley Hunter 04-21-2012 01:52 PM

Purdy gun.

cayugad 04-21-2012 05:03 PM

Very nice looking rifle. That should be a lot of fun to shoot.

gregrn43 04-21-2012 07:24 PM

Nice looking gun congratulations

HDMontana 04-22-2012 03:46 AM

Very nice. Let us know how she shoots.

adam2000 04-22-2012 06:02 PM

post more pics of that!

Semisane 04-22-2012 06:37 PM

So you like lever actions? I have only one. But it's a sweet one.


bronko22000 04-23-2012 04:34 AM

Semi, I'm looking for one of them too. They are nice. And the .357/.38 spl is perfect for dispatching ground hogs, yotes and similar varmints.
But alas, it looks like you bastardized that poor little lever as you did the sinful sinters!!!. But don't worry, I understand. Tis better with poor old eyes to scope and kill rather than not scope and mame. BTW, that stock has the most gorgeous wood I've ever seen on a lever gun.

Semisane 04-23-2012 04:58 AM

I bought it last September. My son is a auto mechanic. He told me about a customer of his that had a .357 Marlin in his closet for years, new in the box - never been fired, that he wanted to sell. I've always wanted one, so I contacted the guy to check it out. It was indeed new in the box, with original factory grease. After a little negotiating I got it for $450 which I think was a bargain.


bronko22000 04-23-2012 10:11 AM

Definately a bargan. Sweet deal

Muley Hunter 04-23-2012 12:23 PM

Nice gun semi. Take off all those frills, and it's a nice gun for CAS. :)

bronko22000 04-23-2012 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by Muley Hunter (Post 3931954)
Nice gun semi. Take off all those frills, and it's a nice gun for CAS. :)

Not sure if it would work for CAS. You need at least a 10 round mag or lose time with reloading.
Semi, does she hold 10?

Muley Hunter 04-23-2012 01:43 PM

It must. They use that gun in CAS. I believe it shoots .38's too. That's what they would use in CAS.

I always loved the 44-40, so I couldn't use any Marlins. I had to spring for the Uberti Winchesters.

Semisane 04-23-2012 04:20 PM

With .357's it's 8 in the tube and 1 in the chamber. With .38's it's 9 in the tube and 1 in the chamber.

Muley Hunter 04-23-2012 05:55 PM

Hmmmm.....that wouldn't work. You can't have one in the chamber until you lever one in at the station.

Semisane 04-23-2012 07:01 PM

If you hold a cartridge or two in your hand it's real easy to stick one in the loading gat during a course of fire. But you would lose a second or two.

Muley Hunter 04-23-2012 07:33 PM

They aren't doing that though. Maybe they modify them to hold 10 rounds in the tube.

2 seconds is huge in CAS for one station.

CAS aside. It's a nice looking gun.

Semisane 04-23-2012 07:57 PM

I suspect you could load ten .38's with a short or deep seated bullet, or maybe even shorten the brass a bit. The ones I tried are full profile round nose lead bullets.

arcticap 04-24-2012 01:32 AM

Read post #4 in this thread for info. about how to load 10 rounds in a .357 Marlin 94 magazine:

http://thefiringline.com/forums/show...light=magazine

deer655 04-24-2012 03:20 PM

I have never heard of a Puma lever rifle before. Is Puma the actual manufacturer? Three weeks ago I bought my first lever gun; an 1980 built 336c in 35 remington. I love the gun. When I bought it it had a 8 lb trigger pull. I put a Wild West trigger on it and now its a sweet 3 lb pull. 35 ammo isnt the most common round to find tho. Thats a nice looking gun that you have bought and 44 ought to knock a deer plenty hard.

deer655 04-24-2012 03:28 PM

Semi. the wood on that gun is gorgeous. Did the gun have factory installed swivels or did you add them. My 336 in 35 will definitely be hitting the woods next year during hunting.

bronko22000 04-24-2012 05:17 PM

Deer, the Puma is the manufacturer. I believe they were bought out by Rossi. But except for the safety on top of the action (which I hate on a lever gun) it is the same design as the old Winchester 92.
I know all about those frivilous law suits form mishandling but I really dispise those cross bolt safetys on the newer Marlin and Winchester lever guns. At least the one on this rifle is on top and is a bit less conspicious.

Blackpowdersmoke 04-24-2012 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by Semisane (Post 3931854)
I bought it last September. My son is a auto mechanic. He told me about a customer of his that had a .357 Marlin in his closet for years, new in the box - never been fired, that he wanted to sell. I've always wanted one, so I contacted the guy to check it out. It was indeed new in the box, with original factory grease. After a little negotiating I got it for $450 which I think was a bargain.


Semi, that's a sweet little rifle with a beautiful stock! I would love to find one like that in .45LC...

BPS

cayugad 04-24-2012 08:51 PM

How accurate is that rifle with open sights at say.. 50 yards Semi? I once shot a Ruger Mini 14 that was .44 mag and that was a very accurate rifle. My buddy deer hunted with that rifle. And he killed a lot of deer with it.

Semisane 04-24-2012 09:10 PM

I didn't shoot it even once with open sights Cayugad. I ordered the scope base the same day I bought the rifle and already had an extra ProDaimond in the closet.

I load 180 grain XTP's for it over 14.5 grains if Lil`Gun for a velocity of 1600 fps. It gives me groups right at one-inch at 50 yards and two inches at 100. Haven't shot .38's out of it, just .357 Mags. It shoots 158 grain bullets pretty well, but not as well as the 180's. Also tried some hot 125 grain loads I have for a handgun. They didn't do well at all.

bronko22000 04-25-2012 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by Semisane (Post 3932350)
I didn't shoot it even once with open sights Cayugad. I ordered the scope base the same day I bought the rifle and already had an extra ProDaimond in the closet.

I load 180 grain XTP's for it over 14.5 grains if Lil`Gun for a velocity of 1600 fps. It gives me groups right at one-inch at 50 yards and two inches at 100. Haven't shot .38's out of it, just .357 Mags. It shoots 158 grain bullets pretty well, but not as well as the 180's. Also tried some hot 125 grain loads I have for a handgun. They didn't do well at all.

Cayugad - He can't see 50 yds without a scope. That's why he has the 3 sinful sisters around. So they can help guide him around his food plot. He'll soon be carrying a muzzy in one hand and one of those long white sticks with a red tip when he goes hunting. :s5::biggrin:

Blackpowdersmoke 04-25-2012 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by bronko22000 (Post 3932634)
Cayugad - He can't see 50 yds without a scope. That's why he has the 3 sinful sisters around. So they can help guide him around his food plot. He'll soon be carrying a muzzy in one hand and one of those long white sticks with a red tip when he goes hunting. :s5::biggrin:

I've seen some of his targets...pretty darn good shootin' fer a blind feller!...:fighting0007: :lolabove:

BPS

Semisane 04-25-2012 06:53 PM

Dang it Bronko. That ain't nowhere near true. I think you're dealing with the mistaken belief that others of your age share your many infirmities.

The fact is I can see 50 yards without a scope. In fact, I can see quite well far beyond 50 yards. It's that dang little front sight that's only twenty-eight inches from my eye that I can't see. :s2:

bronko22000 04-26-2012 02:45 AM


Originally Posted by Semisane (Post 3932695)
The fact is I can see 50 yards without a scope. In fact, I can see quite well far beyond 50 yards. It's that dang little front sight that's only twenty-eight inches from my eye that I can't see. :s2:

That's about the same problem I have. I used to be able to read the paper without my glassed but then my arms got too short. And when I set the paper down to just beyond arms reach the print was too small. And that's also reason why I am always taking off those blasted fiber optic sights. The red front looks like a '8' to me.
BTW - I loaded up that .44 levergun. The magazine holds 13 rounds of 44 mag. Can almost get #14 in there. All that lead darn near doubles the weight of the rifle...:o


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